Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tristan Klocke > > I want to switch to ZFS, but still want to encrypt my data. Native Encryption > for ZFS was added in "ZFS Pool Version Number 30", but I'm using ZFS on > FreeBSD with Version

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL devices and fragmentation

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > > > > Also keep in mind that if you have an SLOG (ZIL on a separate > > > device), and then lose this SLOG (disk crash etc), you will probably > > > lose the pool. So if

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL devices and fragmentation

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook > > I would think a flag to allow you to automatically continue with a disclaimer > might be warranted (default behavior obviously requiring human input). This already exists. It's c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the ZFS "copies" attribute substitute HW disk redundancy?

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Nico Williams > > The copies thing is a really only for laptops, where the likelihood of > redundancy is very low ZFS also stores multiple copies of things that it considers "extra important.

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread Ray Arachelian
On 07/31/2012 09:46 AM, opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris wrote: > Dedup: First of all, I don't recommend using dedup under any > circumstance. Not that it's unstable or anything, just that the > performance is so horrible, it's never worth while. But particularly > with encrypted data, you're g

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread Nigel W
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Ray Arachelian wrote: > On 07/31/2012 09:46 AM, opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris wrote: >> Dedup: First of all, I don't recommend using dedup under any >> circumstance. Not that it's unstable or anything, just that the >> performance is so horrible, it's never

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Elling
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Nigel W wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Ray Arachelian wrote: >> On 07/31/2012 09:46 AM, opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris wrote: >>> Dedup: First of all, I don't recommend using dedup under any >>> circumstance. Not that it's unstable or anything, just

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread Robert Milkowski
> Once something is written deduped you will always use the memory when > you want to read any files that were written when dedup was enabled, so > you do not save any memory unless you do not normally access most of > your data. For reads you don't need ddt. Also in Solaris 11 (not in Illumos unf

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread Patrick Heinson
HI I use GELI with ZFS all the time. Works fine for me so far. Am 31.07.12 21:54, schrieb Robert Milkowski: >> Once something is written deduped you will always use the memory when >> you want to read any files that were written when dedup was enabled, so >> you do not save any memory unless you

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ray Arachelian > > One thing you can do is enable dedup when you copy all your data from > one zpool to another, then, when you're done, disable dedup. It will no > longer waste a ton of memor

Re: [zfs-discuss] encfs on top of zfs

2012-07-31 Thread opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling > > I believe what you meant to say was "dedup with HDDs sux." If you had > used fast SSDs instead of HDDs, you will find dedup to be quite fast. >  -- richard Yes, but this is