Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:53 -0800, nathan.k...@daimler.com wrote: I agree that a new feature in the task list could be nice too but here is how I use the existing features. I keep tasks all over the place in my Notebook, some tasks are minor or very detailed and not really worth tracking once completed but other, higher level main tasks are good to keep track of once completed. For the tasks that I want to keep track of, I have a page named Accomplishments and when I complete a task I use the Move Selected Text ... and move the completed task to my Accomplishments page. This method also allows me to move an extra line of text with the date (Ctrl+D) so I can group completed tasks by date. I do something similar, but the opposite way: I have a page for the tasks that I am working on, one line per task and a year header between the years. When a task is completed, I select that line and apply the strike format to it. That way the completed tasks are 'greyed' out and make the uncompleted tasks visually stand out. Each task line is a link to a task page in a dedicated namespace. I did use checkboxes a lot for todos in the beginning, but I found them polluting my reading experience. Now I use the checkboxes only for status of a task, and the keywords TODO and FIXME for short term sub-tasks. This makes the TODOs and FIXMEs stand out in the Tasklist compared to the umbrella task they are listed under. When a TODO or FIXME is completed, I double-click the words and apply strike formating to them. (not the entire line, just the keyword) That removes the TODO from the Tasklist, but is available for later reference. I use dates a lot, but I find the concept of 'due date' stupid, so I mis-use the whole concept for 'entry-date'. I find that due-dates are useless as references, but very valuable as entry dates. At this point I started off explaining how I use Zim and found that I became too verbose. I have been using zim since 2009 according to my Journal and it is a very efficient task tracking tool when the right feature is used the right way. My use-case simply got to big to describe in an email. -- Svenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 03:13 -0800, jayseye wrote: For what it's worth, I found your explanation useful, Svenn. I've been actively exploring many options for using the Task List effectively: I asked about that here on the mailing list recently, in the context of GTD. So far that post has received one private reply. Perhaps I should have asked, more generally, how folks use the Task List... I have read the GTD book by David Allen and I know the concept very well, and I have tried various tools that claim to be GTD, but end up very bureaucratic and useless. I think Allen express something very essential about GTD: You need to have an archive system which is absolutely reliable so that you can get stuff out of your head and into the system and trust that you will find it again. Zim is text files with markup so if everything breaks, command line tools can be used. Storage can be on DropBox or SparkleShare so a backup is available (zim internal VCS is also available) if configured. Because I trust my system, I can really do GTD the Allen Way with zim. Because we have the Tasklist and the Journal plugins, we really do not need the GTD inbox explicitly, but we are free to make one if we like. The link and backlink functionality can give absolute control on when work was done on a particular task (this is a use case and not a plugin), but the very free format in Zim let you experiment with use-cases and still keep your data. The way attachment folders work, reference data can be stored with its task unchanged (as long as the file is not named .txt), and will move with the task if the task needs to be moved somewhere. Knowing that stuff can be moved without problem gives me the assurance that I can dump something quickly (like a git stash) and come back to it later. The ever-recurring question Where is the best place to store this? is completely gone. I just write TODO: Find a better home for this and go on. When I do the weekly review, Tasklist will 'git stash list' the blob back into my memory and I can process it in a more appropriate way. The search function could be better, but for 99% of my use, I can do with the built in search function. For the last 1% I trust my command line tools. I can't do this on a web-app or something with a binary back-end database. Trust is amazingly important when it comes to GTD. -- Svenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:31 +0100, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Chris Habasinski cjh...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this question asked before but could not find an answer: How can I search for checkboxes - open, checked and x-ed. I have tried everything I can think of in the search pane but no joy. Afraid there is no way to search for check boxes, you can only search for text. The tasklist plugin can create a list of open checkboxes, but nothing has been implemented for checked checkboxes. Btw. wondering what you want to use it for. Looking for tasks that have been completed or canceled because only open tasks are shown in the task manager. -- Svenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Svenn Bjerkem svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:31 +0100, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: Btw. wondering what you want to use it for. Looking for tasks that have been completed or canceled because only open tasks are shown in the task manager. If that is the use case, the obvious place to add it is in the tasklist dialog. - have a toggle show closed tasks - add column with checkbox image that allows sorting by type Does that make sense ? Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
Jaap That does make sense - I am looking to list completed tasks for historical purposes. I already had a shot at adding that to the Tasklist plugin, because as you said, that is where it makes sense. I noticed that all of the checkboxes are present in the SQL table but my Python is not good enough to make those changes. I am working on it but it may take a while :-) I don't understand why I can't search for them - I wrote an external script that I added to custom tools that can grab them by finding, for example, [*] from the raw text files but that doesn't work from ctrl-shift-f. Thanks Chris On 02/18/2013 07:03 AM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Svenn Bjerkem svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:31 +0100, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: Btw. wondering what you want to use it for. Looking for tasks that have been completed or canceled because only open tasks are shown in the task manager. If that is the use case, the obvious place to add it is in the tasklist dialog. - have a toggle "show closed tasks" - add column with checkbox image that allows sorting by type Does that make sense ? Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Chris Habasinski cjh...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this question asked before but could not find an answer: How can I search for checkboxes - open, checked and x-ed. I have tried everything I can think of in the search pane but no joy. Afraid there is no way to search for check boxes, you can only search for text. The tasklist plugin can create a list of open checkboxes, but nothing has been implemented for checked checkboxes. Btw. wondering what you want to use it for. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Searching for check boxes
Unchecked boxes are recognized as (nestable) TODO items by the task-list plugin. As for [*] and [x], I don't know any method short of full-text search with external tools (e.g. `grep [x] *.txt */*.txt */*/*.txt ...`). kind regards, Klaus 2013/2/17 Chris Habasinski cjh...@gmail.com I have seen this question asked before but could not find an answer: How can I search for checkboxes - open, checked and x-ed. I have tried everything I can think of in the search pane but no joy. Thanks ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
