Re: [Zim-wiki] page modified but... really?
2016-11-13 19:00 GMT+01:00 keeweel : > > > 2016-11-05 16:26 GMT+01:00 JP Vossen : > >> 04.11.2016 17:24 időpontban Alberto ezt írta: >>> >>> Hi list, very often when I am enjoying zim wiki in windows 7, I get a warning saying that the page I am working on has been modified. I think this happens because my hard disk is encrypted by PGP, or because some other security software did some changes on it When this happens, the only option I need (overwrite and ignore whatever or whoever did unauthorized changes) is not available. Furthermore, I can't find an option to configure a default behaviour for this kind of situations. Since this is very frequent, and I am using a corporate computer which has a standard platform ... something makes me think that the algorithm used for detecting changes is detecting false positives. I mean, maybe the checksum changed, but not the content Please could you check the checking method and add an option to ignore changes and overwrite them? >>> >> On 11/05/2016 05:50 AM, Mukli Krisztián wrote: >> > Hi keeweel! >> > >> > Same issue here, I experienced similar using with Windows 7 without >> > encryption, Windows 10 with or without Bitlocker, Debian 8 with LUKS. So >> > I think, this issue is independent from encryption. By the way, I often >> > get this warning, when cloud-syncing client synchronizing the actually >> > edited page (I'm using owncloud client, but maybe same issue with other >> > clients). When this happening, owncloud-client finding confliction and >> > create a new file with same name and .conflict extension. >> > >> > This is only my observation, but I interested to yours and others >> > experiences. Yes, overwriting function should be useful, but lack of >> > this function maybe has technical reasons. >> >> +1 for this idea. >> >> I have not noticed false positives. My notebook lives on a remote drive >> and I sometimes accidentally do modify the same page from 2 places. When >> that happens I know which one I want to keep, but since I can't overwrite I >> have to do manually delete the on-disk file then re-save from the correct >> instance. >> >> Thanks, >> JP >> -- --- >> JP Vossen, CISSP | http://www.jpsdomain.org/ | http://bashcookbook.com/ >> >> > so, any developer listening? do you think this feature could be > implemented in future releases? > thank you in advance, > > keeweel > Hi, Zim-wiki is awesome for taking and organizing quick notes while performing other activities. there are better tools than Zim-wiki if your want to write documents as a dedicated task (without other distractions present or multitasking). When you have to stop, wait for a countdown, save as with another name and later remember to do the manual version handling... well... this does not help for quick note taking, specially on meetings ;) Is there any technical reason why you can't just overwrite or define a default behaviour in a quick note taking tool? where does a popup window with a countdown fit in the design of this piece of software? Zim wiki is great and has a lot of useful features but IMO not being disturbed while taking notes should be a critical-priority mission for devs seems you are busy now, but I hope this feedback will reach a dev. thank you for 3 yrs of happy Quick-note taking. I really enjoy using Zim-wiki ! looking forward to v 1.0 :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] page modified but... really?
2016-11-05 16:26 GMT+01:00 JP Vossen : > 04.11.2016 17:24 időpontban Alberto Valverde ezt írta: >> >> Hi list, >>> >>> very often when I am enjoying zim wiki in windows 7, I get a warning >>> saying that the page I am working on has been modified. I think this >>> happens because my hard disk is encrypted by PGP, or because some >>> other security software did some changes on it >>> >>> When this happens, the only option I need (overwrite and ignore >>> whatever or whoever did unauthorized changes) is not available. >>> Furthermore, I can't find an option to configure a default behaviour >>> for this kind of situations. >>> >>> Since this is very frequent, and I am using a corporate computer which >>> has a standard platform ... something makes me think that the >>> algorithm used for detecting changes is detecting false positives. I >>> mean, maybe the checksum changed, but not the content >>> >>> Please could you check the checking method and add an option to ignore >>> changes and overwrite them? >>> >> > On 11/05/2016 05:50 AM, Mukli Krisztián wrote: > > Hi keeweel! > > > > Same issue here, I experienced similar using with Windows 7 without > > encryption, Windows 10 with or without Bitlocker, Debian 8 with LUKS. So > > I think, this issue is independent from encryption. By the way, I often > > get this warning, when cloud-syncing client synchronizing the actually > > edited page (I'm using owncloud client, but maybe same issue with other > > clients). When this happening, owncloud-client finding confliction and > > create a new file with same name and .conflict extension. > > > > This is only my observation, but I interested to yours and others > > experiences. Yes, overwriting function should be useful, but lack of > > this function maybe has technical reasons. > > +1 for this idea. > > I have not noticed false positives. My notebook lives on a remote drive > and I sometimes accidentally do modify the same page from 2 places. When > that happens I know which one I want to keep, but since I can't overwrite I > have to do manually delete the on-disk file then re-save from the correct > instance. > > Thanks, > JP > -- --- > JP Vossen, CISSP | http://www.jpsdomain.org/ | http://bashcookbook.com/ > > so, any developer listening? do you think this feature could be implemented in future releases? thank you in advance, keeweel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] page modified but... really?
04.11.2016 17:24 időpontban Alberto Valverde ezt írta: Hi list, very often when I am enjoying zim wiki in windows 7, I get a warning saying that the page I am working on has been modified. I think this happens because my hard disk is encrypted by PGP, or because some other security software did some changes on it When this happens, the only option I need (overwrite and ignore whatever or whoever did unauthorized changes) is not available. Furthermore, I can't find an option to configure a default behaviour for this kind of situations. Since this is very frequent, and I am using a corporate computer which has a standard platform ... something makes me think that the algorithm used for detecting changes is detecting false positives. I mean, maybe the checksum changed, but not the content Please could you check the checking method and add an option to ignore changes and overwrite them? On 11/05/2016 05:50 AM, Mukli Krisztián wrote: > Hi keeweel! > > Same issue here, I experienced similar using with Windows 7 without > encryption, Windows 10 with or without Bitlocker, Debian 8 with LUKS. So > I think, this issue is independent from encryption. By the way, I often > get this warning, when cloud-syncing client synchronizing the actually > edited page (I'm using owncloud client, but maybe same issue with other > clients). When this happening, owncloud-client finding confliction and > create a new file with same name and .conflict extension. > > This is only my observation, but I interested to yours and others > experiences. Yes, overwriting function should be useful, but lack of > this function maybe has technical reasons. +1 for this idea. I have not noticed false positives. My notebook lives on a remote drive and I sometimes accidentally do modify the same page from 2 places. When that happens I know which one I want to keep, but since I can't overwrite I have to do manually delete the on-disk file then re-save from the correct instance. Thanks, JP -- --- JP Vossen, CISSP | http://www.jpsdomain.org/ | http://bashcookbook.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] page modified but... really?
Hi keeweel! Same issue here, I experienced similar using with Windows 7 without encryption, Windows 10 with or without Bitlocker, Debian 8 with LUKS. So I think, this issue is independent from encryption. By the way, I often get this warning, when cloud-syncing client synchronizing the actually edited page (I'm using owncloud client, but maybe same issue with other clients). When this happening, owncloud-client finding confliction and create a new file with same name and .conflict extension. This is only my observation, but I interested to yours and others experiences. Yes, overwriting function should be useful, but lack of this function maybe has technical reasons. Best regards --- MUKLI KRISZTIÁN _tel: +3630 347 4636_ _mail: krisztianmukli@mukli.hu_ _web: www.mukli.hu [3]_ 04.11.2016 17:24 időpontban Alberto Valverde ezt írta: > Hi list, > > very often when I am enjoying zim wiki in windows 7, I get a warning saying > that the page I am working on has been modified. I think this happens because > my hard disk is encrypted by PGP, or because some other security software did > some changes on it > > When this happens, the only option I need (overwrite and ignore whatever or > whoever did unauthorized changes) is not available. Furthermore, I can't find > an option to configure a default behaviour for this kind of situations. > > Since this is very frequent, and I am using a corporate computer which has a > standard platform ... something makes me think that the algorithm used for > detecting changes is detecting false positives. I mean, maybe the checksum > changed, but not the content > > Please could you check the checking method and add an option to ignore > changes and overwrite them? > Thank you and many greetings > > keeweel > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki [1] > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki [1] > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp [2] Links: -- [1] https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki [2] https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp [3] http://www.mukli.hu ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] page modified but... really?
Hi list, very often when I am enjoying zim wiki in windows 7, I get a warning saying that the page I am working on has been modified. I think this happens because my hard disk is encrypted by PGP, or because some other security software did some changes on it When this happens, the only option I need (overwrite and ignore whatever or whoever did unauthorized changes) is not available. Furthermore, I can't find an option to configure a default behaviour for this kind of situations. Since this is very frequent, and I am using a corporate computer which has a standard platform ... something makes me think that the algorithm used for detecting changes is detecting false positives. I mean, maybe the checksum changed, but not the content Please could you check the checking method and add an option to ignore changes and overwrite them? Thank you and many greetings keeweel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
