Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on IOS #ipad - What is the best setup to read and edit?

[Gordon]

Hi Jaap

You wrote: "I would be interested to know [how] Notesy deals with the
file layout in the folder - is it compatible with the way zim stores
text files in the folder, or different?"
Notesy basically mirrored the folder structure of Zim, and it even
displays the zim files with it's markdown preview, but of course does
not interpret the formatting correctly.  Though viewing the Zim files as
just plain text works fine for referencing notes remotely.

But for me Notesy is out of the running as a good Zim file sync and
search tool for reasons outlined here...

In order to be sure of having all my Zim files on my ipad, I thought
Notesy (plaint text editor with Mark Down support) with it's excellent
search capability of files and content was what I was looking for.  But
unfortunately the reviews I read that mentioned "full Dropbox sync" were
misleading.  Notesy as it currently stands, does not do full offline
sync like we are used to with Linux/Windows Dropbox syncing, where full
offline sync means exactly that.  Notesy only syncs dropbox files
offline if you *browse* the dropbox folders that you want to sync, and
as it will not sync recursively!?  So you would need to browse all the
sub-folders of your Zim folder structure!!  Furthermore, after
originally being drawn to it's search capabilities, I found that it only
searched the files that it has synced too, even if you are online and
connected to your Dropbox!  So Notesy is off the list for me.  but as a
pure mark down editor it works well, and would suit Zim users who have
simple shallow folder structures.

But there are other options, after further searching, here is what I
found, listed in order of best to worst for supporting full offline sync
and search capabilities:

Documents (Free!!) by Readdle:  Primarily a file sync and viewer app

SYNC: full Dropbox sync! :-).  
SEARCHING: File names = yes. Text in files = yes Text while
editing = yes .  *Has an option of enabling a search index too -
so would be suited to huge Zim setups
EDITOR: Basic plain text, but has font size, text find, bookmark
capability


GoodReader:  Primarily a file sync and viewer app

SYNCING: Will do a complete one or two way sync of your entire
Dropbox or selected folders.
SEARCHING: File names = yes. Text in files = no. Text while
editing = yes  
EDITOR - Basic plain text editor


Byword - a very reputable plaintext editor with mark down support, and
preview.  Works with just plain text files.  

SYNC: Full Dropbox sync, 
SEARCHING:File names = yes. Text in files = yes. Text while
editing = ? 
DEAL BREAKER:  search only looks in your current folder context,
IT DOES NOT RECURSE!!  Yet their app feature set states: "search
for text inside all your documents" - now that is economical
with the truth!
EDITOR:  Very good.  MD preview.  Includes some mark down keys
(header #, link, image, list, emphasis *, undo) 


PlainText 2

SYNC: Does full off line sync.
SEARCHING:  Filename search only in the context you are in, ie
won't search subfolders! No search in docs either!!
EDITOR: Did not test.


So in the end in order to have full sync and the best search
capabilities of your Zim files on IOS, Documents is the way to go.
Byword like Notesy have their strength in Markdown capability, but are
let down by their sync and/or search capability.


I found an interesting Zim clone in the app store, called "Trunk Notes
Personal Wiki", which supports Markdown formatting.  So if Zim support
Markdown formatting then may this app could read Zim files natively!?

Surely there must by other IOS users in the Zim world.  Feel free to
chip in with how you read your Zim files on IOS.

Cheers, Gordon


On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 13:02 +0200, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Thanks for sharing our setup. Sounds like Notesy is a useful app here,
> but afraid I can't test it myself since I don't have an i* device.
> Looking for similar Android apps myself.
> 
> 
> 
> I am planning adding markdown support to zim, so that might make your
> setup even more useful. I would be interested to know Notesy deals
> with the file layout in the folder - is it compatible with the way zim
> stores text files in the folder, or different?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jaap
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Hi all I currently use Zim on Suse Linux 11 (SLED) and Windows
> 7 and it works we'll, especially with Dropbox.   The
> interlinking and search ability is brilliant. Zim kills my old
> method of standalone pure text files, mixed with web pages
> saved as .mht files. 
> I now have an iPad and trying to work out the best way to view
> and optionally edit  my Zim data.  My requirements are: - have
> all my Zim files available off-line, fo

Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on IOS #ipad - What is the best setup to read and edit?

[nomnex]

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:02:43 +0200
> Jaap Karssenberg  wrote:
>
> I am planning adding markdown support to zim

Bar bone markdown, or could we use multimarkdown which supports tables?

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on IOS #ipad - What is the best setup to read and edit?

[Jaap Karssenberg]

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for sharing our setup. Sounds like Notesy is a useful app here, but
afraid I can't test it myself since I don't have an i* device. Looking for
similar Android apps myself.

I am planning adding markdown support to zim, so that might make your setup
even more useful. I would be interested to know Notesy deals with the file
layout in the folder - is it compatible with the way zim stores text files
in the folder, or different?

Regards,

Jaap



On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Gordon  wrote:

>  Hi all I currently use Zim on Suse Linux 11 (SLED) and Windows 7 and it
> works we'll, especially with Dropbox.   The interlinking and search ability
> is brilliant. Zim kills my old method of standalone pure text files, mixed
> with web pages saved as .mht files.
> I now have an iPad and trying to work out the best way to view and
> optionally edit  my Zim data.  My requirements are: - have all my Zim files
> available off-line, for speedy access, and for when there is no internet
> connection (such as when on a plane or in a remote region) - file name
> search - file content text search (the only way I can find that shred of
> info I need)
> Here are my findings
> DROPBOX is the key for syncing, and there are many suggestions about
> simply opening the Zim file with a text editor on the iPad. ISSUES:  -
> Interestingly the IOS version of Dropbox only downloads files as you try to
> open them, unless you select the file as a Favourite.  Selecting folder is
> not supported! - There are plenty of great plain text editors too on the
> iPad, but they do not all make a complete local sync of the dropbox folder
> either, often you must select individual files to open/sync, which becomes
> unworkable.  Or they did no offer good search capabilities.
> GOODREADER almost did it for me, as you can synchronise a complete Dropbox
> folder locally, using a one way or two way sync.  But it has a basic text
> editor and it can't do full text search over a file system, only file name
> search.
> After countless hours of research, the best I can come up with is NOTESY,
> which features: - full off-line sync of my Dropbox files, just like Dropbox
> does on linux or Windows - fantastic search capabilities, of files or
> content - mark down support
> Before I commit to NOTESY, I was wondering how others are reading or
> editing Zim files on ther iPad, is there a better way?
> I also tested exporting to HTML, and it's good for browsing (using
> GoodReader), but I couldn't search it.
>
> WIKI *VIEWER* FOR ZIM After searching for Wiki viewers in the App Store,
> there were dozens available to view Wikipedia.  I couldn't help but think
> how useful it would be to have a generic wiki (Zim) reader with search -
> does such a thing exist?
> --  Gordon
>
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014, at 21:44, Syv Ritch wrote:
> I see that the desktop version is 21mb and the portable 12mb. What's
> the difference?

One is packaged by NSIS alone (desktop) and the other by
PortableApps.com's installer builder which uses NSIS. I think it applies
some extra magical extract-at-runtime compression to executable code.

It's the same Zim and and the same source code.


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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Syv Ritch]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:46:14 -0700
Brendan Kidwell  wrote:

> Thanks for your question Syv.
> 
> I think what you want to do is this:
> * Install the Portable version of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows onto
> your thumbdrive, from here:
> http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
> * Also extract the source tree to another folder on your
> thumbdrive. It will run on most GNU/Linux machines without a lot of
> fiddling. Navigate to where 'zim.py' is and run it.
> 

Thank you very much.

I see that the desktop version is 21mb and the portable 12mb. What's
the difference?

sknahT

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Brendan Kidwell]

... and you should be to start each version of Zim and navigate to
"Open" a notebook wherever it may be stored.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014, at 18:46, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
> Thanks for your question Syv.
> 
> I think what you want to do is this:
> * Install the Portable version of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows onto your
> thumbdrive, from here: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
> * Also extract the source tree to another folder on your thumbdrive. It
> will run on most GNU/Linux machines without a lot of fiddling. Navigate
> to where 'zim.py' is and run it.
> 
> Brendan Kidwell
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014, at 7:50, Syv Ritch wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I use 0.60 (from 0.5) on xubuntu for the last couple of years. 
> > 
> > Is there a way of installing zim on a stick (including the notebooks)
> > and have zim run under Windows when I'm on the road?
> > 
> > sknahT
> > 
> > vyS
> > 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for your question Syv.

I think what you want to do is this:
* Install the Portable version of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows onto your
thumbdrive, from here: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
* Also extract the source tree to another folder on your thumbdrive. It
will run on most GNU/Linux machines without a lot of fiddling. Navigate
to where 'zim.py' is and run it.

Brendan Kidwell


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014, at 7:50, Syv Ritch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I use 0.60 (from 0.5) on xubuntu for the last couple of years. 
> 
> Is there a way of installing zim on a stick (including the notebooks)
> and have zim run under Windows when I'm on the road?
> 
> sknahT
> 
> vyS
> 
> -- 
> Thanks
> http://www.foto-biz.com
> The Business Of Being A Photographer -- Lightroom Q&A
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on tablet (android)

[Jaap Karssenberg]

Maybe someone could link this prototype from the wiki ?  (
https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki)

Bonus points for some screenshots of what it currently does :)

Thanks!

Jaap



On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Frank Van Geirt <
frank.van.ge...@firewolf.be> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> Check out out: https://launchpad.net/zimdroid
>
> It's a prototype and works with a Dropbox / Dropsync setup.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>  On 9/01/2014 18:16, Uriel Avalos wrote:
>
> That sounds like an awesome idea.
>
> I'm an Android developer. If anyone wants to work on this with me, we
> should get discuss this further
>
> On 01/09/2014 11:35 AM, Alessia Moretti wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you for your hard work with Zim. I really like it and I'm using it
> everyday for almost everything from my shopping list to diary, agenda memo
> and notes. I'd like to have it on my tablet if possible( synching on a usb
> key). Is it possible to install it on a android tablet. Or is a such option
> planned?. Anyway thank you and season greetings, even if a bit late :)
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on tablet (android)

[Frank Van Geirt]

Hello,

Check out out: https://launchpad.net/zimdroid

It's a prototype and works with a Dropbox / Dropsync setup.

Frank



On 9/01/2014 18:16, Uriel Avalos wrote:

That sounds like an awesome idea.

I'm an Android developer. If anyone wants to work on this with me, we 
should get discuss this further


On 01/09/2014 11:35 AM, Alessia Moretti wrote:


Hi,
Thank you for your hard work with Zim. I really like it and I'm using 
it everyday for almost everything from my shopping list to diary, 
agenda memo and notes. I'd like to have it on my tablet if possible( 
synching on a usb key). Is it possible to install it on a android 
tablet. Or is a such option planned?. Anyway thank you and season 
greetings, even if a bit late :)




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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on tablet (android)

[Uriel Avalos]

That sounds like an awesome idea.

I'm an Android developer. If anyone wants to work on this with me, we 
should get discuss this further


On 01/09/2014 11:35 AM, Alessia Moretti wrote:


Hi,
Thank you for your hard work with Zim. I really like it and I'm using 
it everyday for almost everything from my shopping list to diary, 
agenda memo and notes. I'd like to have it on my tablet if possible( 
synching on a usb key). Is it possible to install it on a android 
tablet. Or is a such option planned?. Anyway thank you and season 
greetings, even if a bit late :)




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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on /.

[Svenn Are Bjerkem]

On 19 August 2013 05:34, JP Vossen  wrote:

> http://it.slashdot.org/story/**13/08/18/124202/experiences-**
> and-realities-of-an-**homesourced-it-worker
>
> Congrats,
> JP
>

Congratulation. Just prepare for a possible huge inrush of new users and
feature requests..

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Re: [Zim-wiki] zim on n900 using fossil for sync works nice - and some comments ...

[Stephan Schulz]

Hi Matt,

I always had the plan to do exactly that, as I really like fossil. I use zim 
also on my n900 which works great but so far I didn't sync my notes with the 
zim installations I have on my PCs.
The main problem is that I bought myself an N9 (it is hard to call that a 
problem :) so recently I started using my N900 less. Unfortunately there is no 
way to run zim on an N9 yet (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/830112), but 
there were news that people work on a GTK port already. Python is supported 
even officially for Harmattan, so there might be the chance this changes soon 
hopefully.
Are you planning on getting an N9 as well?

Thanks for sharing your experience with fossil and zim!
Regards Stephan




- Original Message -
> From: "matt welland" 
> To: zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 5:19:59 PM
> Subject: [Zim-wiki] zim on n900 using fossil for sync works nice - and some   
> comments ...
> 
> First - my thanks to Jaap and the developers of zim and to Miguel for
> the n900 port. Zim seems to be just the ticket for my needs. I love
> that
> I can take notes on my n900 and then sync to my desktop and netbook.
> 
> I'm using zim on my n900 synced to two other computers using fossil
> (www.fossil-scm.org) to do the sync/revision control. I've only been
> using it for a couple days but no significant problems so far. I'll
> be
> testing syncing to zim on windows over the weekend.
> 
> Does anyone else on the list use fossil and would integrating fossil
> as
> a supported scm be used by anyone?
> 
> To sync on the n900 all I do is:
> 
> fossil update
> fossil addremove
> fossil ci -f -m "addremove and commit zim data"
> 
> The fossil autosync does the rest. Proper integration with zim would
> be
> nice but so far isn't really necessary.
> 
> What would be cool I think would be configurable sync script with
> button. You enter the sync script name in the configuration panel and
> then a button becomes available on the button bar which when pushed
> saves any changes and then calls the sync script. Would that be
> generally useful to others?
> 
> One minor issue I've noticed is that zim is very slow to notice that
> files have changed underneath it. I've tried ^R to refresh on the
> n900
> but it doesn't seem to see the changes until I've clicked on several
> items.
> 
> Lastly fossil has a built in wiki and ticket system. If zim supported
> the fossil wiki format as an option then zim pages would both be
> controlled by and browsable from fossil via the ui and web serving.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt
> -=-
> 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] zim on n900 using fossil for sync works nice - and some comments ...

[Jaap Karssenberg]

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:19 PM, matt welland  wrote:

> First - my thanks to Jaap and the developers of zim and to Miguel for
> the n900 port. Zim seems to be just the ticket for my needs. I love that
> I can take notes on my n900 and then sync to my desktop and netbook.
>
> I'm using zim on my n900 synced to two other computers using fossil
> (www.fossil-scm.org) to do the sync/revision control. I've only been
> using it for a couple days but no significant problems so far. I'll be
> testing syncing to zim on windows over the weekend.
>
> Does anyone else on the list use fossil and would integrating fossil as
> a supported scm be used by anyone?
>
>
Hadn't heard of this one before - so guess not too many users yet - or
maybe I just missed it.

To integrate it in the version control plugin have a look at the code for
the bazaar module and replace the bazaar commands with fossil commands.
Should not be to hard.


> To sync on the n900 all I do is:
>
> fossil update
> fossil addremove
> fossil ci -f -m "addremove and commit zim data"
>
> The fossil autosync does the rest. Proper integration with zim would be
> nice but so far isn't really necessary.
>

How does the autosync work - does it take care of conflicts as well ?


> What would be cool I think would be configurable sync script with
> button. You enter the sync script name in the configuration panel and
> then a button becomes available on the button bar which when pushed
> saves any changes and then calls the sync script. Would that be
> generally useful to others?
>
> One minor issue I've noticed is that zim is very slow to notice that
> files have changed underneath it. I've tried ^R to refresh on the n900
> but it doesn't seem to see the changes until I've clicked on several
> items.
>

You mean updates in the page index ?  In that case try Tools -> Update
Index to re-scan the folder.


> Lastly fossil has a built in wiki and ticket system. If zim supported
> the fossil wiki format as an option then zim pages would both be
> controlled by and browsable from fossil via the ui and web serving.
>

That would be a nice option - what is the wiki format ?  And how does fosil
determine what files are wiki content and what are not ?

Regards,

Jaap
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on windows 64

[Jaap Karssenberg]

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:47 PM, laurent Gire wrote:

> how can i install zim on windows 64
>

You can find a windows installer linked here:
http://www.zim-wiki.org/downloads.html

Instructions on installing from source are here:
http://www.zim-wiki.org/install.html

Not sure if anything special needs to be done for 64 systems, did you try it
out ?

Regards,

Jaap
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