Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-27 Thread Elmer L Fairbank
At 11:42 5/27/2003 -0400, St Jon wrote: Larry Jackson wrote: My earthquake story isn't nearly as exciting, sorry. I actually have several other exciting earthquake stories (in a car with transformers power blowing up around me and power lines dropping, in a house on a cliff overlooking the

Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-27 Thread George Cobabe
I have also been hit by lightning as well. It is rather spectacular when in the cockpit of a 2 man aircraft at 30,000 feet. It makes quite a show. However all it does is make a group of pin sized holes in the fuselage - really no big deal. Except, of course, for the initial scare. George

Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-27 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
It could have been be worse . . . http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=355 May 27, 2003 Contact: Tim Stephens (831) 459-2495; [EMAIL PROTECTED] UC Santa Cruz Press Release Massive tsunami sweeps Atlantic Coast in asteroid impact scenario for March 16, 2880 FOR IMMEDIATE

Re: [ZION] Constitutional Losses

2003-05-27 Thread Scott McGee
Yes, Val, some of the rest of us _DO_ feel that way. Most of us are less vocal than John, but, at least on this issue, I am very concerned. I don't know what I can do about it, but I am very alarmed at the way the US citizenry has just rolled over and given the Feds anything they want on this

Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-27 Thread Jon Spencer
I guess the moral of the story is to ensure that your food storage is stored in waterproof containers. Jon Ronn! Blankenship wrote: It could have been be worse . . . http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=355 May 27, 2003 Contact: Tim Stephens (831) 459-2495; [EMAIL

Re: [ZION] Constitutional Losses

2003-05-27 Thread Jon Spencer
I, on the other hand, while watching the situation very carefully, have not yet asked for a Prozac prescription. While I do not trust the government, neither do I assume evil intent. I fear the activism of the judicial branch far more than I fear the effects of the Patriot Act (interesting name,

[ZION] Composing a letter to the Church

2003-05-27 Thread Gerald Smith
I never said you were the only one who wants to see this happen. What I did say is that there may not be enough blind people wanting Church publications accessible to the blind on computer to make it financially feasible. The Church has to weigh the needs of all people's access to the scriptures

[ZION] Deism

2003-05-27 Thread Gerald Smith
Deism was never considered fatalistic by the Deists of Jefferson's day. They believed that as the clock wound down it would generate people who were more and more enlightened in the things of God, eventually giving way to a wondrous Utopian Millennium based on knowledge, truth, and freedom. That

Re: [ZION] Constitutional Losses

2003-05-27 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:19 PM 5/27/2003, you wrote: It makes me wonder, can it really be long before the Elders of the Church have to save the constitution? Scott . . . if it can be saved at all. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . today the Christian Constitutionalist weeps as he walks about his

Re: [ZION] Constitutional Losses

2003-05-27 Thread Jon Spencer
Doesn't prophesy say that the Elders will save it? But prophesy also says that the Elders will be killed so there will be a 7 to 1 ratio of the righteous, women to men. What's a mother (or father for that matter) to do? Jon - Original Message - From: Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ZION] Constitutional Losses

2003-05-27 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 09:32 PM 5/27/2003, you wrote: Doesn't prophesy say that the Elders will save it? Jon There are different versions and remembrances of Joseph Smith's statement (Given on July 19th 1840). Orson Hyde, in recalling Joseph Smith's words, put it this way: I believe he said something like