[ZION] Gnostic secrets and Gospel truths

2003-08-18 Thread Jim Cobabe


One of the basic tenets of Gnosticsim seems to be that we were consigned 
to this mortal probation as punishment for our evil nature.  This 
contradicts some of the basic principles of the true Gospel.

The Gnostics were isolationists and hermits who hated the world, and 
expressed their emnity by holding themselves separate.  Our doctrine is 
that we should live in the world, but avoid being worldly.  A marked 
contrast in pragmatic thinking.

One of the aspects of Gnosticism that appeals to some is the element of 
secrecy.  Some would draw parallels between this and our religion.  The 
difference is that temple ordinances are closed because of their sacred 
nature, not because there is any need to keep them hidden.  Anyone who 
wishes can find out everything that goes on in our temples.

An intriguing question --  if we enter the temple unworthily, how is our 
presence there different from interlopers who intrude there?

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Jim Cobabe

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Re: [ZION] Gnostic secrets and Gospel truths

2003-08-18 Thread Stacy Smith
Another intriguing question is if someone enters unworthily why isn't the 
temple automatically defiled?

Stacy.

At 02:04 AM 08/19/2003 +, you wrote:



One of the basic tenets of Gnosticsim seems to be that we were consigned
to this mortal probation as punishment for our evil nature.  This
contradicts some of the basic principles of the true Gospel.
The Gnostics were isolationists and hermits who hated the world, and
expressed their emnity by holding themselves separate.  Our doctrine is
that we should live in the world, but avoid being worldly.  A marked
contrast in pragmatic thinking.
One of the aspects of Gnosticism that appeals to some is the element of
secrecy.  Some would draw parallels between this and our religion.  The
difference is that temple ordinances are closed because of their sacred
nature, not because there is any need to keep them hidden.  Anyone who
wishes can find out everything that goes on in our temples.
An intriguing question --  if we enter the temple unworthily, how is our
presence there different from interlopers who intrude there?
---
Jim Cobabe
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Re: [ZION] Gnostic secrets and Gospel truths

2003-08-18 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams

An intriguing question --  if we enter the temple unworthily, how is our
presence there different from interlopers who intrude there?

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Jim Cobabe
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The greater sin then be upon our own head. . .
. . .the difference as I see it, is that if WE enter unworthily, we are
aware of our unworthiness.  We are knowingly defiling the temple.  If an
interloper intrudes, chances are, he has not  made the same covenants and
is therefore not subject to the same condemnation.  Interloping is more
of a curosity thing.  

val


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