Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
Well, we can only spread ourselves so thin. Stacy. At 11:34 AM 11/08/2002 -0500, you wrote: I am constantly amazed at the fuzzy thinking that some people exhibit by dragging up this obviously silly argument. Now let me get this straight by using another example that, I believe, is entirely analogous. We have a war against crime in the US. It has been going on for as long as the US has been in existence. We were looking for the Beltway Snipers. I think that it was ridiculous to worry about trying to stop any other criminals because we couldn't stop the snipers. Is that your logic? Are you saying that because we can't be certain that we have killed USB (you say OSB) that we should ignore the fact that we have plenty of both other threats and resources with which to pursue them, and instead just sit around looking for a needle in a haystack? USB was always the figurehead and the money man. His underlings were the planners and shakers. They are the ones we need to get. Or are you saying that we should have ignored Germany in WWII, because Japan was a big enemy (actually, a much more rational argument), or ignored Italy? No, we needed to rid the world of these threats - it was both our duty and our obligation. >From my perspective, this type of argument seems self-destructive. Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he > is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding > Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.399 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/09/2002 / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
Unfortunately, the target is way out in LEFT field, a rather funny place for JWR to be shooting arrows! Jon > My point exactly and right on target. > > Stacy. > > At 11:07 AM 11/07/2002 -0900, you wrote: > > >Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he > >is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding > >Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
I am constantly amazed at the fuzzy thinking that some people exhibit by dragging up this obviously silly argument. Now let me get this straight by using another example that, I believe, is entirely analogous. We have a war against crime in the US. It has been going on for as long as the US has been in existence. We were looking for the Beltway Snipers. I think that it was ridiculous to worry about trying to stop any other criminals because we couldn't stop the snipers. Is that your logic? Are you saying that because we can't be certain that we have killed USB (you say OSB) that we should ignore the fact that we have plenty of both other threats and resources with which to pursue them, and instead just sit around looking for a needle in a haystack? USB was always the figurehead and the money man. His underlings were the planners and shakers. They are the ones we need to get. Or are you saying that we should have ignored Germany in WWII, because Japan was a big enemy (actually, a much more rational argument), or ignored Italy? No, we needed to rid the world of these threats - it was both our duty and our obligation. >From my perspective, this type of argument seems self-destructive. Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he > is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding > Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
Well, there have been news reports that his son, Mohammed, has been captured. I believe he only has 1 son, and 2 daughters, but I'm not sure. Paul Osborne wrote: > >Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he > > >is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before > adding > >Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR > > I'm convinced he is dead. You can buy anything in this world for money > but only if it exists. > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > / > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
That was a pretty neat trick in northern Yemen, I gotta admit. I just finished reading Holy War, Inc., by Peter L. Bergen, ex of CNN. He'd just about finished writing this book, subtitled "The Secret World of Osama bin Laden" when 9-11 happend, so naturally he had to add an extra chapter. Bergen travelled into the Hadramawt region (believed to be part of the Frankincense Trail where Lehi travelled, incidentally), home of the bin Laden clan, and also into northern Yemen, where the translator/driver's job was to stop at checkpoints, grab his Kalashnikov, and yell at people who also had Kalashnikovs. Pretty interesting territory. Me, I get my frankincense at a head shop near the downtown Hyatt in Calgary every year. It's almost as safe, and a lot closer. ;-) Jim Cobabe wrote: > John W. Redelfs wrote: > --- > Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he > is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before > adding Saddam Hussein to the hit list. > --- > > If the greatest priority in this situation is to eliminate terrorist > leaders like OBL and Sadaam, I think the CIA-directed Predator unmanned > platform for launching a lil'ole Hellfire missle is a fine solution. > Let the active military operations lay off the guy for a while until the > spies can spot him, then lay one of these little gifts in his lap. > Should prove very effective treatment for any irritating folks on the > list of those we'd never miss. > > The terrorists don't have access to technology like this. Let them be > fearing and tremble for a change. > > --- > Mij Ebaboc > > / > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
>Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he >is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding >Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR I'm convinced he is dead. You can buy anything in this world for money but only if it exists. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
John W. Redelfs wrote: --- Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --- If the greatest priority in this situation is to eliminate terrorist leaders like OBL and Sadaam, I think the CIA-directed Predator unmanned platform for launching a lil'ole Hellfire missle is a fine solution. Let the active military operations lay off the guy for a while until the spies can spot him, then lay one of these little gifts in his lap. Should prove very effective treatment for any irritating folks on the list of those we'd never miss. The terrorists don't have access to technology like this. Let them be fearing and tremble for a change. --- Mij Ebaboc / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Osama bin Laden
My point exactly and right on target. Stacy. At 11:07 AM 11/07/2002 -0900, you wrote: Is everyone pretty convinced that Osama bin Laden is still alive? If he is, maybe we should finish that part of the War on Terrorism before adding Saddam Hussein to the hit list. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.399 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/09/2002 / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
