Re: [ZION] Worldnet Daily, Newsmax
Dan R Allen wrote: Dan R Allen wrote: The problem with getting the real Taliban side of the story, or the Palestinian side for that matter, is the severe limitations those regimes place on what is released to the world new services. Marc: ???bin Laden regularly makes news release via video to a popular TV station in Qatar. Does the US have an Arabicist in Doha? Why not? Dan: And this disproves what I said how? Marc: The world press *does* have access to what the Taliban gives it, through a TV station in Doha, Qatar. It only takes one counterexample to disprove a universal claim such as you made. The problem is that the US doesn't have Arabicists in its embassies in the Gulf (except possibly Riyadh) so Qatari TV doesn't get translated and given to the US press. Dan: I was talking about the 'man on the street' perspective - not the party line. So was I. Al-Qazeer is a private network and is not owned nor controlled by any government. Stated another way, my point was that all we could really expect out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and the PA in Israel is the propaganda that the leadership's _wants_ us to have. We must have someone in Qatar that understands Arabic, since we did see the OBL tapes, with transcripts, fairly quickly after they were broadcast, You saw them almost a week after they were broadcast, when someone at Fox was given a copy. Actually it looks like you do have a pretty good and well-staffed embassy in Qatar (http://www.usembassy.org.qa/) (better than our's but you're ten times our size: http://www.canadians-in-qatar.com/ward/ward_1.htm -- our embassy is actually in Kuwait City but the ambassador is accredited to Qatar) but again, my point was that getting news from _beyond_ the information minister just doesn't happen. I wonder why? Looks like the stuff on the US embassy website is pretty good and up-to-date. Maybe you should demand more of your network media. -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark. --Michelangelo Buonarroti Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Worldnet Daily, Newsmax
John W. Redelfs wrote: Is Worldnet Daily or Newsmax a reliable source for information on current events? If not, what sources do you think are reliable? I know that Marc likes The Economist. What about the rest of you? I myself don't think that The Economist pumps out bad data. But I do believe it is quite biased in what it decides to report on. A person doesn't have to lie to be dishonest, and neither does a publication. Telling only one side of a story is not honest. It does have its biases (it's Libertarian, or as they call it in Europe, Liberal), but that's why I gave a list, not just the Economist. After all, I like the WSJ, too -- it produces good facts -- even though I don't like their editorial stance. For instance, has any English publication given the Taliban side of the story? I'll bet the answer is no. How many English language histories of WWII accurately report the German point of view even in English translation from the German? I like to read both sides of any argument, and often it is hard to find more than one side. That always triggers my propaganda alert. How much of our news is really objective reporting rather than propaganda? John W. Redelfs[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Don't put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow. -- Mark Twain * All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark. --Michelangelo Buonarroti Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Worldnet Daily, Newsmax
Dan R Allen wrote: Dan: I think that they are probably more reliable than many sources are, although their bias is probably a little too conservative for some. All sources are going to be somewhat biased in what they feel is newsworthy, whether it's due to their focus or editorial bias. I also tend to stay way from the opinion pieces as much as I can since they are little more than pure propaganda. The problem with getting the real Taliban side of the story, or the Palestinian side for that matter, is the severe limitations those regimes place on what is released to the world new services. ???bin Laden regularly makes news release via video to a popular TV station in Qatar. Does the US have an Arabicist in Doha? Why not? -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark. --Michelangelo Buonarroti Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
