Re: [ZION] how do we know we are real?

2002-11-05 Thread Marc A. Schindler
That's the odd thing, and the wonderful thing, about foreign languages. This statement is commutative in Latin, but its translation into English is not, as you point out, even if somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Cogito ergo sum implies sum ergo cogito. The problem is that "cogito" doesn't just mean "I thi

Re: [ZION] how do we know we are real?

2002-11-04 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 08:52 PM 11/4/02, Gary Smith wrote: I believe it was Renee DesCartes who said, "I think, therefore I have a headache." No, wait. "I think, therefore I like green eggs and ham." No. "I think, therefore I am." Yeah, that's it. The problem is that the *converse* of that statement is demonstr

[ZION] how do we know we are real?

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
I believe it was Renee DesCartes who said, "I think, therefore I have a headache." No, wait. "I think, therefore I like green eggs and ham." No. "I think, therefore I am." Yeah, that's it. We can ponder our own existence, real or not. However, since I experience things, why should I worry if I'm