Re: [ZION] Help needed for a quotation

2003-09-09 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank 
At 07:26 AM 9/9/2003 -0600, St Steven wrote:
At 05:45 AM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
At 06:16 PM 9/8/2003 -0600,St Steven wrote:
Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which 
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and 
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous 
will get more righteous and the wicked more wicked, or words to that 
effect. There must be someone here will have that at their fingertips .


I, too, remembered that one, but had not been able to remember when.  I 
just did a search and have come up with the following from the April 1983 
Conference, Elder Dean L. Larson.  It is pretty much as I remembered 
hearing it.  They are wise words with which I have tried to guide my life 
since then.  As he says, it's not always easy.  I often see the Saints 
following a few steps behind (myself included, embarrassed to say).




Thanks, but John provided the quote I was searching for:

The General Conference address that comes to mind is "I Testify" by 
President Ezra Taft Benson who said in October 1988 conference:
"I testify that as the forces of evil increase under Lucifer's leadership 
and as the forces of good increase under the leadership of Jesus Christ, 
there will be growing battles between the two until the final 
confrontation. As the issues become clearer and more obvious, all mankind 
will eventually be required to align themselves either for the kingdom of 
God or for the kingdom of the devil. As these conflicts rage, either 
secretly or openly, the righteous will be tested. God's wrath will soon 
shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked 
without measure. (See JS-H 1:45; D&C 1:9.) But God will provide strength 
for the righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally 
truth will triumph." (See 1 Ne. 22:15-23.)


That's OK.  I've been wanting to find that other quote anyway.  It's also a 
keeper.  I've referred to it a number of times without having the exact 
citation. Amazing how consistent the words of the prophets are.  Pres ETB 
doesn't mince any words here, does he?  I see that alignment starting to 
take place.  The day of the fence sitter is nearly gone.

Till

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Re: [ZION] Help needed for a quotation

2003-09-09 Thread Steven Montgomery 
At 05:45 AM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
At 06:16 PM 9/8/2003 -0600,St Steven wrote:
Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which 
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and 
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous 
will get more righteous and the wicked more wicked, or words to that 
effect. There must be someone here will have that at their fingertips .


I, too, remembered that one, but had not been able to remember when.  I 
just did a search and have come up with the following from the April 1983 
Conference, Elder Dean L. Larson.  It is pretty much as I remembered 
hearing it.  They are wise words with which I have tried to guide my life 
since then.  As he says, it's not always easy.  I often see the Saints 
following a few steps behind (myself included, embarrassed to say).




Thanks, but John provided the quote I was searching for:

The General Conference address that comes to mind is "I Testify" by 
President Ezra Taft Benson who said in October 1988 conference:
"I testify that as the forces of evil increase under Lucifer's leadership 
and as the forces of good increase under the leadership of Jesus Christ, 
there will be growing battles between the two until the final 
confrontation. As the issues become clearer and more obvious, all mankind 
will eventually be required to align themselves either for the kingdom of 
God or for the kingdom of the devil. As these conflicts rage, either 
secretly or openly, the righteous will be tested. God's wrath will soon 
shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked without 
measure. (See JS-H 1:45; D&C 1:9.) But God will provide strength for the 
righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally truth will 
triumph." (See 1 Ne. 22:15-23.)



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Re: [ZION] Help needed for a quotation

2003-09-09 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank 
At 06:16 PM 9/8/2003 -0600,St Steven wrote:
Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which 
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and 
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous will 
get more righteous and the wicked more wicked, or words to that effect. 
There must be someone here will have that at their fingertips .


I, too, remembered that one, but had not been able to remember when.  I 
just did a search and have come up with the following from the April 1983 
Conference, Elder Dean L. Larson.  It is pretty much as I remembered 
hearing it.  They are wise words with which I have tried to guide my life 
since then.  As he says, it's not always easy.  I often see the Saints 
following a few steps behind (myself included, embarrassed to say).



The challenging conditions we find in the world today should be no surprise 
to us. As we approach the time of the Saviors return, wickedness will 
increase. There will be more temptations in our daily lives, and they will 
become more intense. It will become more acceptable in the world to break 
the laws of God or to disregard them altogether. The stigma attached to 
immoral, dishonest behavior will disappear.

In this difficult environment we will be expected to steer our own course 
in an upward direction. As President Kimball has warned us, it will neither 
be acceptable nor safe to remain on the plateaus where our present conduct 
has kept us. Abrupt downward forces, represented by increasing wickedness 
in the world, can only be offset by forces that move correspondingly 
upward. Our lives must be better than they have ever been before. This 
simply means that we will become increasingly different from those around 
us whose lives follow the worlds way. It is not easy to be different. There 
are intense pressures that work against us. But we must clearly understand 
that it is not safe to move in the same direction the world is moving, even 
though we remain slightly behind the pace they set. Such a course will 
eventually lead us to the same problems and heartaches. It will not permit 
us to perform the work the Lord has chosen us to do. It would disqualify us 
from his blessing and his protecting care.

The Lord has said that the time will come when there will be an entire 
separation of the righteous and the 
wicked.(D&C 63:54.) Nephi, in the 
Book of Mormon, said, For the time speedily cometh that the Lord God shall 
cause a great division among the people, and the wicked will he 
destroy.(2 Ne. 30:10.)

As we consider these promises, we should not forget the warning given by 
the Lord to the Latter-day Saints. Nevertheless, Zion shall escape if she 
observe to do all things whatsoever I have commanded her.


Till





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Re: [ZION] Help needed for a quotation

2003-09-08 Thread Stacy Smith 
It's already happening.

Stacy.

At 06:16 PM 09/08/2003 -0600, you wrote:

Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which 
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and 
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous will 
get more righteous and the wicked more wicked, or words to that effect. 
There must be someone here will have that at their fingertips .



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"There is one and only one legitimate goal of United States foreign 
policy. It is a narrow goal, a nationalistic goal: the preservation of our 
national independence. Nothing in the Constitution grants that the 
president shall have the privilege of offering himself as a world leader. 
He is our executive; he is on our payroll; he is supposed to put our best 
interests in front of those of other nations. Nothing in the Constitution 
nor in logic grants to the president of the United States or to Congress 
the power to influence the political life of other countries, to 'uplift' 
their cultures, to bolster their economies, to feed their people, or even 
to defend them against their enemies." (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 
p. 614; see also pp. 682 & 704.)

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[ZION] Help needed for a quotation

2003-09-08 Thread Steven Montgomery 
Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which 
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and 
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous will 
get more righteous and the wicked more wicked, or words to that effect. 
There must be someone here will have that at their fingertips .



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Steven Montgomery
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"There is one and only one legitimate goal of United States foreign policy. 
It is a narrow goal, a nationalistic goal: the preservation of our national 
independence. Nothing in the Constitution grants that the president shall 
have the privilege of offering himself as a world leader. He is our 
executive; he is on our payroll; he is supposed to put our best interests 
in front of those of other nations. Nothing in the Constitution nor in 
logic grants to the president of the United States or to Congress the power 
to influence the political life of other countries, to 'uplift' their 
cultures, to bolster their economies, to feed their people, or even to 
defend them against their enemies." (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 
614; see also pp. 682 & 704.)

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