Re: [ZION] Breaking Promises
JWR wrote: > Occasionally we hear inactive members suggest they can be "good people" > without being active in the Church. They are confused. Whatever they > suppose, they are willfully breaking promises made to God. Well, John, I suppose you are right. I don't know what the relationship is between being a good person and breaking covenants. Let's look at a person who has not been baptized by one with the proper authority. He: never steals obeys the law of the land helps the windows and motherless is faithful to his wife votes non-RINO Republican :-) is an Eagle Scout and an active scouter smokes drinks moderately I'd say this person is a good person. Now, let's take those same traits and add to them that he has been baptized by one with the proper authority. Is he no longer a good person? I don't know, but I do say that he is in big heap trouble. Assuming that he understood exactly what he was agreeing to, then he indeed entered into a covenant, and he broke it. He is indeed held to a higher standard. His only hope is to repent. So let's go find all those less active and help them to regain their eternal future (2 of my three HT families fall into this category). Jon // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Breaking Promises
I haven't willfully tried to break promises to God. My bishop knows this. Stacy. At 09:46 AM 09/04/2003 -0800, you wrote: The way I use the language, all Mormons are baptized members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And every baptized member of this Church has made two promises to the Lord when he or she was baptized: 1) I promise to take upon myself the name of Jesus Christ. 2) I promise to keep his commandments, whatever they may be. Perhaps some members do not remember making these two promises to the Savior, but they can jog their memories every time they take the Sacrament on Sunday. What does this mean? It means that every member that does not make an honest effort to attend his meetings and keep the other commandments is breaking promises he has made to God. He is a covenant breaker. Occasionally we hear inactive members suggest they can be "good people" without being active in the Church. They are confused. Whatever they suppose, they are willfully breaking promises made to God. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === "There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph." --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 08/19/2003 -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^