RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
-Original Message- From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?) I don't believe the sons of perdition will be few in number. I believe we have sufficient scriptures to prove otherwise, notwithstanding many will go telestial. The people that go telestial will still have to repent in order for that to be done. I've seen some people who would never accept Jesus under any circumstances. These people wish to live in their sins. Aren't I right in suggesting that anyone who wishes to live through eternity with their sins will go to perdition? Stacy. You are not right. About anything listed above. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
Boy o Boy, that is certainly a response designed to continue discussion. It is interesting that the best you can offer is a complete denial that Stacy had anything useful to say and without and justification on your part. Not even a disclaimer that you uinderstand it differently, but jsut a dismissal. There are so many things that are just obviously bad and wrong aren't there. Most of which can be dismissed as easily as you have her questions, unless of course one wants to think it through and perhaps come up with a more useful response. I, of course, with this response can be accused of doing the very thing I condemn in your response. George - Original Message - From: Ron Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:15 AM Subject: RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?) -Original Message- From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?) I don't believe the sons of perdition will be few in number. I believe we have sufficient scriptures to prove otherwise, notwithstanding many will go telestial. The people that go telestial will still have to repent in order for that to be done. I've seen some people who would never accept Jesus under any circumstances. These people wish to live in their sins. Aren't I right in suggesting that anyone who wishes to live through eternity with their sins will go to perdition? Stacy. You are not right. About anything listed above. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
-Ron- But a more important question: Why do people on ZION focus so intently on such things -- judging others in particular -- anyway? Who authorizes us to hold people to artificial standards that may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with the gospel Christ taught and can not be applied uniformly across the church organization? What useful purpose is served? I'm certainly not qualified to speak for anyone on this list other than myself. In my case, my intent was not to judge others or hold anyone to standards, artifical or otherwise. It was simply an attempt to address John's challenge to substantiate what he called a three strikes and you're out rule. The useful purpose being served is, I suppose, the clarification of doctrinal misunderstanding and the building of friendship and fellowship through conversation. Stephen // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
-Grampa Bill- Not at all certain of this, but it appears that this might be instruction rather than doctrine. In this matter, I would be much more inclined to trust the understanding of a bishop/former bishop than my own. (Especially since my understanding of this principle is, as I mentioned, pretty shaky to begin with.) Stephen // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
Ron Scott wrote: The scripture above deliniates how the the church organization should deal with adultery, IMO. Bear in mind that denying the Holy Ghost transforms one into a candidate for a bunk with the Sons of Perdition. And, we've been told that the Sons will be FEW IN NUMBER -- as few as the fingers on one's hand. I've heard this for year, but I suspect that it is folk doctrine. Can anyone actually authentic it with references to scripture or the utterances of the Presidents of the Church? --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?)
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Repentance from adultery (was: RE: Is God's Love Unconditional?) Ron Scott wrote: The scripture above deliniates how the the church organization should deal with adultery, IMO. Bear in mind that denying the Holy Ghost transforms one into a candidate for a bunk with the Sons of Perdition. And, we've been told that the Sons will be FEW IN NUMBER -- as few as the fingers on one's hand. I've heard this for year, but I suspect that it is folk doctrine. Can anyone actually authentic it with references to scripture or the utterances of the Presidents of the Church? --JWR Sure. Just as soon as I finish running down your request on GBH and unconditional love. What is this, a test? Your perverse way of getting me to read the scriptures and conference addresses (Mel will be proud of you, John. And, you know to whom he talks)? But if you've heard the SOP described that way for years, why don't you run it down yourself. You've got the same access I have to all the church infobases. Moreover, I think you misled me John when you claimed the volume on ZION was down. Are we having fun yet? Ron // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
