Re: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-26 Thread Steven Montgomery
. . . and could also be explained this way: Because Jesus Christ is literally the God of Nature, and is "in all and through all things," it stands to reason that as Christ suffered, so did his creations. -- Steven Montgomery At 03:13 PM 8/25/2003, you wrote: That all can be easily explained by b

Re: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Stacy Smith
That all can be easily explained by bearing the sins of everyone and the planets' sympathy for what was going on. I had an interesting experience while reading all of this. Shockingly, it seems I had a crazy memory of one day as a spirit being hurled around for no reason I could fathom at the

Re: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:11 PM 8/24/2003, Stacy wrote: I see nothing to indicate anything but human sins borne out of this. Stacy. At 09:32 PM 08/24/2003 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: Thus, such was the torturing pressure of this intense, this indescribable agony, that it burst forth abroad beyond the confine

Re: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Stacy Smith
I see nothing to indicate anything but human sins borne out of this. Stacy. At 09:32 PM 08/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: In my opinion, the best answer to your question is provided by President John Taylor. In 1882, President John Taylor (written while he was President of the Church) wrote a book

Re: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 04:30 PM 8/24/2003, you wrote: Hi. I'm reading some books on the atonement of Jesus Christ. There has been a general expression in at least one of the books I am reading (all by LDS authors but not all authorities) that Jesus Christ took upon Himself more than the sins of all the people in

RE: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Stacy Smith
This doesn't quite answer the question, although it may seem to answer it. Some have implied that Jesus took on the experience of every single man, woman and child. Stacy. At 09:00 PM 08/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Here is a quote from Alma, chapter 7, that may help: 10 And behold, he shall be

RE: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Noel B
Here is a quote from Alma, chapter 7, that may help: 10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even