[ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Jim Fulton
Goal: Give persistent, ZODB and ZEO their own release cycles. (Tres Seaver already did most of the work in separating persistent.) I propose to release the following: - ZODB 4 (4.0.0a1 initially) New ZODB (not ZODB3) project that depends on a separate persistent project and

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: Goal: Give persistent, ZODB and ZEO their own release cycles. In which distribution would BTrees end up in? I think the pure-Python work for BTrees isn't yet finished, but I could be wrong. But if we are extracting packages into

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: Goal: Give persistent, ZODB and ZEO their own release cycles. In which distribution would BTrees end up in? Still ZODB. I think the pure-Python work

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2012 05:20 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: Goal: Give persistent, ZODB and ZEO their own release cycles.

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: ... Well, I don't have time to chase BTrees. This could always be done in ZODB 5. :) I could help chop BTrees out, if that would be useful: most of the effort will be purely subtractive in the ZODB package (I don't

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 14 October 2012 22:49, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: ... Well, I don't have time to chase BTrees. This could always be done in ZODB 5. :) I could help chop BTrees out, if that would be useful: most of the

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 14 October 2012 22:49, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: ... Well, I don't have time to chase BTrees. This could always be done in ZODB 5. :) I

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 14 October 2012 22:49, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: ... Well, I don't have time to chase BTrees. This could always be done in ZODB 5. :) I

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: ZODB 4.0 (without persistent)

2012-10-14 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 14 October 2012 23:33, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 14 October 2012 22:49, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: ... Well, I don't have time to