[ZODB-Dev] Relstorage and MSQL

2012-05-08 Thread Dylan Jay

Hi,

Previous threads on this subject didn't seem to go anywhere.

I know it's not all about money but if we were to sponsor development  
of microsoft sql server support for relstorage, is there someone who  
knows how and has an estimated cost and available time?



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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Relstorage and MSQL

2012-05-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On 09.05.2012, at 02:34, Dylan Jay d...@pretaweb.com wrote:
 I know it's not all about money but if we were to sponsor development of 
 microsoft sql server support for relstorage, is there someone who knows how 
 and has an estimated cost and available time?

It might be helpful if you could add more constraints.

Which version of SQL server do you want to support? Just 2008 or 2012 or some 
Express Edition? Only 64bit servers and clients or 32bit?

Are all clients also on Windows, which OS version, which versions of Python?

What clustering options are you interested in if any? Do you want memcached 
support?

And what about blob storage? Are blobs inside the DB in little chunks enough, 
do you want them on the filesystem via shared network drive or new efficient 
filestream support in SQL server 2008+

The fewer variables you have, the easier an estimate should be. And just 
stating something like the expected data size, number of clients and 
availability concerns might help.

Hanno
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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Relstorage and MSQL

2012-05-08 Thread Dylan Jay

On 09/05/2012, at 11:26 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:


On 09.05.2012, at 02:34, Dylan Jay d...@pretaweb.com wrote:
I know it's not all about money but if we were to sponsor  
development of microsoft sql server support for relstorage, is  
there someone who knows how and has an estimated cost and available  
time?


It might be helpful if you could add more constraints.

Which version of SQL server do you want to support? Just 2008 or  
2012 or some Express Edition? Only 64bit servers and clients or 32bit?


sql server 2008. not sure about 64/32bit.



Are all clients also on Windows, which OS version, which versions of  
Python?


Windows 2008 server standard. Python 2.6/2.7



What clustering options are you interested in if any? Do you want  
memcached support?


I'm not sure. I think living without clustering and memcached for the  
moment is fine.




And what about blob storage? Are blobs inside the DB in little  
chunks enough, do you want them on the filesystem via shared network  
drive or new efficient filestream support in SQL server 2008+


I don't know enough to answer this but for our purposes support SQL  
Server in a basic capacity so Plone runs ok is enough to start with.




The fewer variables you have, the easier an estimate should be. And  
just stating something like the expected data size, number of  
clients and availability concerns might help.


Our need is to 'state' support for SQL server to our client. They have  
SQL server licenses and they'd prefer to use them. The job is for 3  
plone sites, public, extranet and intranet but with no estimate yet of  
the data size. Availability concerns are an issue.
In the case where the work goes ahead and if performance is an issue  
then we;d be in a better position to either implement greater support  
for sqlserver or recommend they switch to a more mature relstorage  
option. Hope that helps put things in context.





Hanno


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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Relstorage and MSQL

2012-05-08 Thread Shane Hathaway

On 05/08/2012 06:34 PM, Dylan Jay wrote:

I know it's not all about money but if we were to sponsor development of
microsoft sql server support for relstorage, is there someone who knows
how and has an estimated cost and available time?


I don't have enough cycles now to do it myself, but I will happily 
assist anyone who wants to take on this project.  The code already has 3 
mature implementations to serve as a reference.


I would plan to spend at least as much time on testing as on 
development.  Like any database, ZODB storage bugs are often expensive 
to debug, so you really need a reliable storage before you can safely 
build layers on top of it.


Shane
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