Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting started with ZODB

2007-09-18 Thread Jim Fulton


On Sep 18, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Benji York wrote:


Jim Fulton wrote:

On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Manuzhai wrote:
...

What's new in ZODB4?
The ZODB project has been abandoned.  Much of the work done in  
that  project was folded back into ZODB3.


Jim means ZODB *4*. :)


Thanks! It's nice to have an interpreter. :)

Jim

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting started with ZODB

2007-09-18 Thread Benji York

Jim Fulton wrote:

On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Manuzhai wrote:
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What's new in ZODB4?


The ZODB project has been abandoned.  Much of the work done in that  
project was folded back into ZODB3.


Jim means ZODB *4*. :)
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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting started with ZODB

2007-09-18 Thread Jim Fulton


On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Manuzhai wrote:
...

What's new in ZODB4?


The ZODB project has been abandoned.  Much of the work done in that  
project was folded back into ZODB3.


Jim

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting started with ZODB

2007-09-18 Thread Dieter Maurer
Manuzhai wrote at 2007-9-18 12:46 +0200:
> ...
>the Documentation link points to a page
>that seems to mostly have papers and presentation from 2000-2002.

There is a good guide to the ZODB from Andrew Kuchling (or similar).

It may be old -- but everything is still valid.

>On the internet, there is some talk about the different storage
>providers, but it seems mostly very old. FileStorage seems to be the
>only "serious" Storage provider delivered with ZODB. Are there any
>other general-purpose Storage providers actively being used in the
>wild?

"FileStorage" is must faster than all other storages. Therefore,
it dominates the scene.

"DirectoryStorage", too, is used more widely.

Internally, "TemporaryStorage" is used (a RAM based storage for
sessions). DemoStorage is used for unit tests.

>How does their performance compare? FileStorage apparently needs
>to keep some index in memory; when does this start to be a problem?

You need about 30 bytes per object. You can calculate when
this starts to make problems for your.

>What's new in ZODB4?

I know nothing about ZODB4. The current version is near 3.8, maybe.

>There is some talk about blobs, are they
>described somewhere?

There should be a proposal at "http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/ListOfProposals";.
But, I just checked, there is not :-(

But a search for "ZODB Blob" gives quite a few hits.



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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting started with ZODB

2007-09-18 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 18. September 2007 12:46:28 +0200 Manuzhai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello there,

For an application I'm working on (implemented mostly in Python), I
was looking for a good solution for our storage needs. First I was
thinking about some tuple- or triple-store, but upon further
reflection I decided yesterday that an object database would probably
work much better. One of the first that came to mind was ZODB (the
other I could think of was Durus, but it doesn't seem as interesting).







-aj

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