Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread Glenn Faden
Assuming you're using the shared IP stack (default), it is sufficient 
for the global zone interface(s) to be plumbed so that the non-global 
zones can use logical instances of the interface(s). So setting the GZ 
interfaces as "down' will prevent network access to/from the global zone.


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Jordan Vaughan wrote:
Is there a way to disable all remote connections to the GZ?  In other 
words, couldn't you use a firewall to reject connections on all ports 
to the GZ?  That would effectively deny remote access to the GZ 
without having to disable any network interfaces.


Of course, disabling the GZ's interface(s) is preferable (it's 
simpler), but I'm not sure if it's possible.  I haven't tried it.


Jordan

On 09/29/10 10:33 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
Ok, so it is impossible to shutdown internet connection to the global 
zone and surf only from the local zones. If I want to surf from the 
local zones, the global zone's NIC must be activated. I suspect a 
hacker will attack the global zone, instead of the local zone that I 
surf from.


Are there any other ways to increase security instead of my original 
plan (shutting down the global zone and surf from local zones)? I am 
afraid the global zone will be attacked...

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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread Jordan Vaughan
Is there a way to disable all remote connections to the GZ?  In other 
words, couldn't you use a firewall to reject connections on all ports to 
the GZ?  That would effectively deny remote access to the GZ without 
having to disable any network interfaces.


Of course, disabling the GZ's interface(s) is preferable (it's simpler), 
but I'm not sure if it's possible.  I haven't tried it.


Jordan

On 09/29/10 10:33 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:

Ok, so it is impossible to shutdown internet connection to the global zone and 
surf only from the local zones. If I want to surf from the local zones, the 
global zone's NIC must be activated. I suspect a hacker will attack the global 
zone, instead of the local zone that I surf from.

Are there any other ways to increase security instead of my original plan 
(shutting down the global zone and surf from local zones)? I am afraid the 
global zone will be attacked...

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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread LaoTsao

Hi
U cannot shutdown gz
Gz run the kernel and all servies for ngz
But can setup firewall such that to restrict acces to ip tcp service and 
port


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From: Orvar Korvar 
To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: 29.9.'10,  13:33

Ok, so it is impossible to shutdown internet connection to the global 
zone and surf only from the local zones. If I want to surf from the local 
zones, the global zone's NIC must be activated. I suspect a hacker will 
attack the global zone, instead of the local zone that I surf from.


Are there any other ways to increase security instead of my original plan 
(shutting down the global zone and surf from local zones)? I am afraid the 
global zone will be attacked...

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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread James Carlson
Orvar Korvar wrote:
> Ok, so it is impossible to shutdown internet connection to the global zone 
> and surf only from the local zones. If I want to surf from the local zones, 
> the global zone's NIC must be activated. I suspect a hacker will attack the 
> global zone, instead of the local zone that I surf from.

There's no need to assign any addresses to the global zone.

I'm pretty sure there are others (Dan McDonald, probably) who have
experimented with the sort of configuration you're describing.

> Are there any other ways to increase security instead of my original plan 
> (shutting down the global zone and surf from local zones)? I am afraid the 
> global zone will be attacked...

If you set up the global zone having no interfaces (just lo0), and set
up the non-global zones using the "set ip-type=exclusive" mechanism, the
non-global zones will have networking that's completely independent of
the global zone.

You can't "shut down" the global zone, but you certainly can configure
it so that it doesn't have any available networking interfaces.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, so it is impossible to shutdown internet connection to the global zone and 
surf only from the local zones. If I want to surf from the local zones, the 
global zone's NIC must be activated. I suspect a hacker will attack the global 
zone, instead of the local zone that I surf from.

Are there any other ways to increase security instead of my original plan 
(shutting down the global zone and surf from local zones)? I am afraid the 
global zone will be attacked...
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Re: [zones-discuss] Can I use 32-bits apps in zone on x64 OSOL?

2010-09-29 Thread Anton Pomozov
Thank you.
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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread LaoTsao



--- Original message ---

From: Orvar Korvar 
To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: 29.9.'10,  10:13

I want to shut down the global zone, and want to surf only from local 
zones. You mean this is not possible?


Not possible
I dont really understand the implications of your post. What are you 
trying to say? That I must use Crossbow in b134? Or, that my plan is not 
possible to do? Or, that I should not shut down the global NIC? Or?

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Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-09-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
I want to shut down the global zone, and want to surf only from local zones. 
You mean this is not possible? 

I dont really understand the implications of your post. What are you trying to 
say? That I must use Crossbow in b134? Or, that my plan is not possible to do? 
Or, that I should not shut down the global NIC? Or?
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Re: [zones-discuss] Can I use 32-bits apps in zone on x64 OSOL?

2010-09-29 Thread James Carlson
Anton Pomozov wrote:
> Seapine TestTrack License Server compiled for 32-bit only.
> Or I need use xVM with PV 32-bit osol?

32-bit applications work fine on x64, whether inside a zone or not.
Each process on x64 (and SPARC) can be either 32-bit or 64-bit and the
system adapts as needed.

The only question is whether this product has kernel modules.  If it
does, then you can't load 32-bit kernel modules into a 64-bit kernel
(for much the same reason that you can't use 32-bit libraries with a
64-bit program).

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[zones-discuss] Can I use 32-bits apps in zone on x64 OSOL?

2010-09-29 Thread Anton Pomozov
Seapine TestTrack License Server compiled for 32-bit only.
Or I need use xVM with PV 32-bit osol?
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