Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Fwd: Re: Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM) and zones

2007-01-25 Thread Steve Lawrence
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:00:23AM -0800, mario heimel wrote:
> TSM client is supported in non-global-zones (only zsf is not supported)
> 
> we have in every zone a TSM client, which backuped the entire Zone (FS and 
> Oracle/SAP with rman ), so you can move zones without a reconfigure of TSM.
> 
> lofs mounts are per default excluded.

So any "rw" lofs mounts in a non-global zone will be backed up by the
TSM client in the global zone.  Seems reasonable.

There is one final opportunity for "double backup" the case "TSM client
in every zone" case.  That is each non-global zone's "/" filesystem.

For instance:

global zone:
"/zones" mounted on /dev/dsk/whatever, with subdir
/zones/zone_a/root
zone_a
"/" is mounted on /zones/zone_a/root, a "ufs" mount from the
perspective on zone_a.

/zones/zone_a/root/var is just a regular directory (not a mountpoint)
  inside of the /zones filesystem mounted on /dev/dsk/whatever.

>From global zone:
TSM client backup of "/zones" or "/zones/zone_a" will backup
  /zones/zone_a/root/var

>From zone_a:
TSM client backup of "/" will backup /var, backing up
/zones/zone_a/root/var again.

-Steve

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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Fwd: Re: Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM) and zones

2007-01-25 Thread Nicholas Senedzuk

I would check with IBM on that. From my understanding from IBM is that TSM
is supported with zones only if the TSM client is installed within the local
zone. I do not think backing up the local zones through the global zone is
supported.


Nick

On 1/25/07, Gael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Let's see if I got the whole picture right...

To summarize,

ie on a practical example using the following template:





  
  
  


/ would be the only filesystem that we could backup from within the zone
but we would have to use tsm to backup /dev, /var and else thru the global
zone client ... guess after all with our current setup, we should keep
backuping everything thru the global zone and develop a process for users to
requests backup restore thru the unix admins instead of a self service model
as we don't want them to access the global and they would in any case be
confuse with the filesystem structure being completly differently presented
within the global.

dbsz8005 #mount -v
/ on / type ufs
read/write/setuid/devices/intr/largefiles/logging/xattr/onerror=panic/dev=41c59d8
on Thu Nov 30 14:14:01 2006
/dev on /dev type lofs read/write/setuid/devices/zonedevfs/dev=4d40016 on
Thu Jan 25 11:29:34 2007
/var on /var type lofs read/write/setuid/devices/dev=41c59d9 on Thu Jan 25
11:29:34 2007
[..]

Mario, how do you present your filesystems to oracle ? Are you using raw
devices ?



On 1/25/07, mario heimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TSM client is supported in non-global-zones (only zsf is not supported)
>
> we have in every zone a TSM client, which backuped the entire Zone (FS
> and Oracle/SAP with rman ), so you can move zones without a reconfigure of
> TSM.
>
> lofs mounts are per default excluded.
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Fwd: Re: Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM) and zones

2007-01-25 Thread Gael

Let's see if I got the whole picture right...

To summarize,

ie on a practical example using the following template:





 
 
 


/ would be the only filesystem that we could backup from within the zone but
we would have to use tsm to backup /dev, /var and else thru the global zone
client ... guess after all with our current setup, we should keep backuping
everything thru the global zone and develop a process for users to requests
backup restore thru the unix admins instead of a self service model as we
don't want them to access the global and they would in any case be confuse
with the filesystem structure being completly differently presented within
the global.

dbsz8005 #mount -v
/ on / type ufs
read/write/setuid/devices/intr/largefiles/logging/xattr/onerror=panic/dev=41c59d8
on Thu Nov 30 14:14:01 2006
/dev on /dev type lofs read/write/setuid/devices/zonedevfs/dev=4d40016 on
Thu Jan 25 11:29:34 2007
/var on /var type lofs read/write/setuid/devices/dev=41c59d9 on Thu Jan 25
11:29:34 2007
[..]

Mario, how do you present your filesystems to oracle ? Are you using raw
devices ?



On 1/25/07, mario heimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


TSM client is supported in non-global-zones (only zsf is not supported)

we have in every zone a TSM client, which backuped the entire Zone (FS and
Oracle/SAP with rman ), so you can move zones without a reconfigure of TSM.

lofs mounts are per default excluded.


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[zones-discuss] Re: Fwd: Re: Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM) and zones

2007-01-25 Thread mario heimel
TSM client is supported in non-global-zones (only zsf is not supported)

we have in every zone a TSM client, which backuped the entire Zone (FS and 
Oracle/SAP with rman ), so you can move zones without a reconfigure of TSM.

lofs mounts are per default excluded.
 
 
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