[Zope] Rakun XML Application Platform version 0.3.1 released

2005-12-26 Thread Evrim Ozcelik
Hi,Rakun aims to integrate database applications into Plone. Currently,it makes existing databases accessible through Plone and supportsbusiness logic via scripts. The long-term goal is to provide anenterprise application development framework complete with detailed
authorization, workflows, report generation etc.Rakun uses Formulator for specifying the database properties in Zope.It supports PostgreSQL, MySQL and SQLite.For additional information about the project, please visit the home
page http://www.rakun.org/-- Evrim ÖzçelikComputer EngineerRakun Core Developer
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Re: [Zope] Re: ZDaemon for wsgi server

2005-12-26 Thread David Pratt
Hi Tres. Seasons greetings. This is very helpful. I hoping to use this 
to fire up a customized server I have made from cherrypy for an app.


On another note, I read Zope was getting out of the server business. 
What will this mean for the future of Zope2 branch? My understanding is 
that Zope will eventually use twisted wsgi server. Will Zope2 be going 
this direction as well or will this be a dead end with ZServer?


Regards,
David

Tres Seaver wrote:

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David Pratt wrote:



Hi I am looking at light wsgi servers to serve an app but want it to be
started from command line and have the thread spun off so it stays
running (instead of tying up a terminal until a interrupt is given).

I was thinking that perhaps ZDaemon could do this since perhaps I could
also get logging as as well and I would not have to potentially write
the threading code. If this is reasonable, can someone give me a basic
outline for doing this. I am interested in running the wsgiserver
locally. Many thanks. Regards,



I have successfully used zdaemon to run non-Zope / non-Python processes
as daemons, e.g., to run spread.

Look at how the code in $ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/ZEO, in particular
'zeoctl.py' and 'zeoctl.xml', which sets up the storage server using
"stock" zdaemon and a little extra config.


Tres.
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[Zope] Re: ZDaemon for wsgi server

2005-12-26 Thread Tres Seaver
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David Pratt wrote:

> Hi I am looking at light wsgi servers to serve an app but want it to be
> started from command line and have the thread spun off so it stays
> running (instead of tying up a terminal until a interrupt is given).
> 
> I was thinking that perhaps ZDaemon could do this since perhaps I could
> also get logging as as well and I would not have to potentially write
> the threading code. If this is reasonable, can someone give me a basic
> outline for doing this. I am interested in running the wsgiserver
> locally. Many thanks. Regards,

I have successfully used zdaemon to run non-Zope / non-Python processes
as daemons, e.g., to run spread.

Look at how the code in $ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/ZEO, in particular
'zeoctl.py' and 'zeoctl.xml', which sets up the storage server using
"stock" zdaemon and a little extra config.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2005-12-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 12/22/05, Gert Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here are my ideas to make Zope 3 the most successful framework ever:

And although all good ideas, most won't help. Why?

Because they are (mostly) about improving the product one way or
another. And to be quite honest, Zope 3 is hone heck of a product,
that is already improved beyond most framework users wet dreams.

We don't need improvements, we need hype. Zope Corp/Zope Foundation
needs to get somebody to make a website that works, is easily
navigatable and, most important of all: Hypes the heck out of Zope 3.

Where is the flash intro? Hmm? Right, I can hear you all go
"urgh", but the fact is that it works. A good flash demo telling
people why Zope 3 is the best thing ever is without any doubt from my
part, the most significant piece missing to make Zope 3 a success.

And, I suck at flash, so I aint doing it! (Unless I get payed silly :-D ).

> * Make installing Zope a double-click or one-command-only experience and

Well, it pretty much is...

> * offer a 30 minutes tutorial of programming an useful application
>   including an audiovisual show for an appetizer that offers a feeling
>   of success.

This is a good one. More effort than the Flash intro/demo, and not
very useful without it (because people won't download it).

> Bribe the managers:
>
> * Include Microsoft SQL-Server and Oracle relational database access.

Product improvement. Managers of this  type have a budget, and by
projects, not database access. The access is included in the budget
for the project, and hence, not a problem.

> * Include powerful XML processing facilities and

See above.

> * include everything necessary and useful to build or use web services.

See above.

> Enable the beginners:
>
> * Easy to read and understand ‹ but still complete and current ‹
>   documentation is a must.

I think Zope 3 is pretty good at this point. A quick tutorial is
missing, but you covered that in your first point.

> * Avoid cluttering everything about Zope across articles, blogs, chats,
>   mailing lists and wikis. Keep everything available and searchable at
>   one central location.

Good idea. But we tried that and that didn't work. Time to try again?
Maybe we can merge some stuff into separate servers but using the same
main domain? So that say, zopewiki is also available at wiki.zope.org?

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