[Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
I understand your comments about sarcasm, but realize that this community is riddled with Unix bigots and just ignore it. Just listen to those willing to help. If you don't have to use MySQL, try either SQL Server or MS Access (small databases). See my pages on Zope NT SQL at http://techsite.tech-world.com/zopetips.htm for NT specific info. I would also recommend NOT using Win9x for ANYTHING. I always use NT. Other than that, have you installed the Win32 python extensions? Not sure if these are required with mySQL as I haven't used it myself. Alan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic = > > comments this time) > > Feel free to interpret every comment you don't like as "sarcastic", but it > will not save your business. > > > to this address) and the response has been pretty poor, i've even tried = > > to email people involved with the mysql database adaptors and got no = > > response. > > You use a commercial operating system: pay for a commercial support. > > > It is really important that i get this problem sorted now if possible as = > > my final year project for university depends on this 'bug' getting = > > fixed. > > If it is important, do not run it on MS-Windows. Otherwise, some people may think > you know nothing about software... ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] RE: Every user should have the Anonymous role everywhere
My suggestion for splitting the role or allowing an "anyone" or "public" role would allow "anonymous" to be maintained and used to identify users that are not authenticated. (This seems to be the norm now for DTML.) The new role would basically be defined as "ignore all security and allow access" Placing the alternate User Folder at the root and using hierarchical roles defined at the root level would make it more manageable, but it would have several drawbacks I can think of off hand: more complex management, shared security model in virtual servers, and difficult for newbies to implement security without locking themselves out of the entire system. Perhaps a flag for "use security"/"don't use security" on this folder/object would be useful? I haven't seen this submitted to the Bug Collector yet.. > > -- > > From: Chris Withers[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Dieter Maurer wrote: > > In Zope, each user has a set of roles. > > Any user has the "Anonymous" role. Log-in users may have > > additional roles. > > I'm not convinced this is true... > > Quoting from the LoginManager CHANGES.TXT file: > > Generic User Source, like the GenericUserFolder product it was > inspired by, > > gave all users the Anonymous role. This seems to be incorrect > according to > > what other user folders do, including the standard Zope > version, so GUS now > > no longer does this. > > ...which is why Alan experiences this problem. I've also run into it > just using a normal acl_users folder and I've been mentioning every few > months since I bumped into it back in March. Here's my opriginal post: > > http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/ByKey/82AE22A20C7E88AE > > I wish this could get sorted out as it makes security a nightmare unless > you use a web of local roles, which is painful and messy to maintain. > > Is there any reason why every user shouldn't have the anonymous role for > every accessible page/object/thing visitable through a protocol? > > cheers, > > Chris > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Authentication, Anonymous and Public
I thought the same. Perhaps the use of NT User causes this? Since the browser has the credentials to authenticate to NT and the higher folders are not aware of the NT User Folder... Seems the only solutions are to use the NT User Folder at the root level. Thanks > > -- > > From: Dieter Maurer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:40:26 PM > > To: Capesius, Alan > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: [Zope] Authentication, Anonymous and Public > > Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Capesius, Alan writes: > > I'm running into a problem after implementing jcNTUserFolder in a > > subfolder of my site. Users can access the root level or particular > > subfolders anonymously. Once a user accesses the protected > > NTUserFolder, the credentials are saved in the browser. If the user > > then returns to the anonymous area, they can no longer access th > > folder due to the browser credentials. > > > > Does Zope have a mechanism equivalent to the Novell NDS Public access? > > that is to say: > > > > Anonymous = not authenticated. > > Everyone = authenticated users (that are members of the group) > > Public = authenticated and anonymous users. > > In Zope, each user has a set of roles. > Any user has the "Anonymous" role. Log-in users may have > additional roles. > > Thus, what you see, should not happen. > > > Dieter > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )