Re: [Zope] dtml
nando n wrote: > > i want to know as much as possible about dtml. Nando, this is the perfect time to read the Zope Book. You can read it on the Zope.Org site or download the HTML and print a copy yourself. It will be published by O'Reilly later this year, by the way. This book is just made as a good, in-depth tutorial answering broad questions like yours. After you've read the book, feel free to contact the list again with specific questions if there is anything you need help with - we all do it, and it surely helps. On the other hand, very broad, basic questions are best answered by the book. Really. To fully answer your question on the list, someone would just have to rewrite the chapter on DTML of the Zope book, which is a waste of everybodies' time, including yours, as it would surely take longer than downloading the chapter from zope.org :-) For goot DTML examples, you can click at the "DTML source" link on every Zope.org page. Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] site structure
Nuno Goncalves wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Nuno Goncalves wrote: > > > How can we define a structure for an entire site with Zope ? > > > for example i want that all the site's pages have a table with 3 > > > colums. it's kind of a template for the web site ! > > > >Using standard_html_header and standard_html_footer in every Document on > > your site... > But that way if i want to change the structure, i have to change on every > page. > My ideia was to create a template(3 colums) where i add objects (dtml > documents). > If i want to change the site structure to 2 colums i only change the > template ! > > Nuno > That is *exactly* what standard_dtml_header and ...footer are for. Together, they *are* your template. You *include* these in every document (using the tag. They'll show up in your documents at run time. Put the default template into the root folder and all your DTML documents will acquire it. In a sub-folder, you can either do nothing (then the acquired header and footer will be used), or override these with a folder-specicic template. See the Zope book, it explains it pretty well. Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] INTERBASE cannot do this type of query ?
Francois-regis Chalaoux wrote: > Error, Products.gvibDA.gvib.gvibExceptions.ProgrammingError: - Dynamic SQL Error -- >SQL error code = -206 -- Column > unknown -- MOUSE > > SQL used: > > select IND_SPECIE > from ZEB_INDIVIDU > where IND_SPECIE = "MOUSE" Use single quotes around 'MOUSE'. In SQL, single qoutes are for string literals, double quotes for column names (there are people who think spaces in column names or mixed lower/upper case column names are neat NOT). Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta / inserting anchors into the "official" HTML?
Simon Coles wrote: > > >I wholeheartedly agree with Jason and Chris. I would very much appreciate a > >PDF version that could be easily printed, or read with Adobe's Reader. > > If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat (you have to pay for > it, as opposed to the free Reader) you can "Capture" web pages into a > PDF. I created a PDF of the Zope Book beta to read on the train > today. PDFs created in this way are full text searchable :-) Well, that is not exactly the point - anybody can use, e.g., htmldoc (a very fine tool from www.easysw.com, which is not a big moneydrain as Adobe distiller is). The point in favor of a semi-official draft copy PDF is that it gives us a common reference frame for reviews and feedback. The PDF would mean everybody has the same page and line numbers, while HTML has no such concept. Hmmm. It would be pretty easy to cook up a script to number all the tags and include that number in the HTML as comments or, even better, anchors so you can directly link to a paragraph). Of course this makes sense only if it is done consistently, i.e., at the source. That would certainly be fine with O'Reilly. Cheers, Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
Fred Yankowski wrote: > > I agree completely that the Zope Book beta will get more reviewers, > and better feedback to the authors, if it is available as PDF. A valid point. I do not care about the format that much. But what I care about is a clear method of referencing the text, to the line or paragraph level, so that we can get comments and corrections to the authors/copyeditors efficiently. A PDF *with page and line numbers* would fit the bill nicely. As would a HTML file with paragraph numbers (as HTML comments, maybe?). The point is that we should be able to give meaningful feedback, like "page 147, line 15: there should be their" (a totally made-up example, do not go hunting for that one). It just does not do to quote full sentences and have the copyeditor search for all that stuff. Too much wasted time on both ends. Cheers, Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] 'Offline' mailhost
Michael Bernstein wrote: > > "Jan H. Haul" wrote: > > > > Each of these will be around 42 KByte large. > > > > Huh? Why that? you ask. > > Because in the header of each mail, the whole recipient list will > > be listed under To: or Cc: > > [snip] > > - privacy: You would not like to have "your" recipients end up on > > other people's mailing lists > > What about using BCC: ? That would effectively sending one separate mail to each recipient, without giving you the full benefit of being able to identify each in case of bounces. I'd recommend using mailing list processing software (ezmlm on qmail is especially handy, or majordomo) for the task - it is in fact written for just this, and makes your life so much easier. If someone insists in reinventing wheels, well, Monty Python has a nice sketch on the topic :-) Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] 'Offline' mailhost
Terry Kerr wrote: > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > Hannu Krosing wrote: > > > > > Also you could send just one message to all the recipients instead of > > > sending individual messages. > > > > Urm, they could be pretty unfriendly mail messages if they're being sent > > to a coupla thousand people. The bandwidth dcoming out of your server > > alone would be far higher than it needed to be :-( > > How would the bandwidth change?? Well, suppose you send a message of, say, 2 KByte (about one page of typed text) to 1,000 recipients. You'll make about 1,000 connections to the recipients' MX hosts. Each of these will be around 42 KByte large. Huh? Why that? you ask. Because in the header of each mail, the whole recipient list will be listed under To: or Cc: (I assumed 40 bytes per address as a roundabout figure). In the envelope (what the SMTP protocol *uses* to deliver the message, only one address will be used, the body To: list is mainly for the recipients' use (to show them who else got it). Besides, there are other problems why you will want separate mails: - privacy: You would not like to have "your" recipients end up on other people's mailing lists - stability: When E-mail bounces, you would like to hanle it intelligently, like trying this address once again (as it could be a temporary outage) and take the address off the list if it still bounces a week or so later - stability again: You woulld not like to be blacklisted as either a spammer or clueless by the recipients' postmaster :-) I would probably use a stable MTA (like qmail, which has good mailing list processing software, or postfix) for the job. Cheers, Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Barcodes, magnetic cards, etc.
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Erik Enge wrote: > > > And, by the way, do you know if there exist a magnetic card scanner > > that plugs in to the PS/2? And if yes, which information would get > > from such a card? Just a number, or are there other possibilities? > > > [Curtis Maloney] > > What is on the card is, strangely enough, what is on the card. Magstripe > readers commonly interface to ps/2 keyboard ports via a 'chok' or 'wedge', > which just plugs inline with your regular keyboard. Several vendors (afair, Keytronic and Cherry at least) make keyboards with integrated magnetic or smart card readers, both in regular PS/2 format as well as smaller keyboards for the POS (cash register) market. In effect, these keyboards behave such that when you swipe a card, the contents of the selected track (magnetic cards usually have three tracks, see the relevant ISO standards for details) is "typed". Often, the magnetic card data is prefixed by an identifier, but that's about it. If you swipe a card (or scan a barcode with your keyboard-attached barcode reader) while in a text editor, you'll see what the reader "types" just as if the user typed it. Most of the barcodes are standardized, albeit by different standards bodies. UPC, EAN and such are used on food cans and the like. 2 of 5 and similar are used for various purposes, e.g., labelling sample bottles for medical labs so you are not treated for that other person's ailments... Use your favorite search engine on bar codes and magnetic cards. This is not really a Zope issue, as Zope never notices that the article ID or whatsnot was scanned, not typed. Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope on AlphaStationNT...
Jim Hoepner wrote: > >Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: quoted-printable >I am a total Zope newbie. I am trying to run Zope on a AlphaStation running NT. I >get a "service specific error 1" >when I try to start Zope. >I am using a utility called FX!32 which lets me run Win32 programs on my Alpha. >"Compaq FX!32 (TM) lets you install and run 32 bit, x86 programs on > your Windows NT Alpha system." >Does anyone have any info that might help? >Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not subscribed to the list yet. >Thanks! >jrh Ok, I wil just guess. Try to find Python 1.5.2 for your Alpha on NT (a search on python.org should help). Worst case, take the Python source and run it through your C compiler. Then, take a regular Zope source release and install that. I have never used NT on Alphas. Another way would be to install Linux on your Alpha. There, the C compiler is standard, Python is probably included in your Linux distribution, and so it gets all rather easy. HTH, Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] doesn't?
Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > Hi, > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Is is just me or does stuff inside a get parsed? > > > > So if you have: > > > > > > > > ... some syntactically bad dtml ... > > > > > > > > You still can't save the page 'cos the the parser throws up an error. > > > > That seems silly to me. Anyone else agree? > > No, I disagree. Why do you want bad dtml even inside comments? For example to find out what exactly is bad about them - i.e., you develop something, you cannot save it, ok, lets comment out the part I am not sure about and try again. Or work in progress (hey, I've gotta sleep sometime) that you want to be stored in the ZODB even though it's not finished. Astonishingly, some really difficult 3am problems become surprisingly easy at 9am after a few hour's sleep. > dtml-comment is a tag like all the other tags. It does not > control the parser. One advantage is, you may nest comment-tags. True. But still, the parser could read over all comments as long as the tags are properly nested. Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Newbie Question (Content Manager Tutorial)
"Mark A. Pappas" wrote: > I installed Zope 2.2.0 on a Win 98 machine. Seems to work fine. I dloaded > the Content Manager Guide and started working through the tutorial. Went to > create a folder as instructed. > > Below is what I got. What am I doing wrong? > > Error Type: SuperCannotOwn > Error Value: Objects cannot be owned by the superuser > You are working as superuser. While this *did* work up to Zope 2.1.6, since Zope 2.2 the security model was tightened. You must (as superuser) create a user with manage privilege, restart your browser and use that user to create objects. HTH, Jan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )