[Zope] Zope chat

2000-08-31 Thread David Spencer

I'm not sure what type of chatroom functionality you're looking for, but you
might have options through Jabber Instant Messenger (www.jabber.org), which
includes a groupchat transport.  I have personally been looking at ways to
implement the groupchat using a Java applet for specific projects managed
through an intranet.  As in Lotus Quickplace, when a team member loads the
project homepage, I would like for the applet to load automatically,
indicating the online presence of other team members and providing the
groupchat function.  Ideally, this would take advantage of existing zope
authentication.  I know LDAP and ODBC user storage has been implemented in
the CVS version of the Jabber server, so it should be able to query the same
user database as zope.  There is also an effort to implement the Jabber
server and groupchat transport in python at pyjama.sourceforge.net.
Information regarding java functionality, including a sample applet I think,
can be found at jabberbeans.org.  I would love to hear from anyone
interested implementing this type of integration between Jabber and Zope.

Good luck,
David



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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:07:10 +0200
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The most awesome - though commercial - chat system that I know of, is
"SpinChat":

homepage:
http://chat.spin.de/en/index.shtml

try one of the demos:
http://chat.spin.de/en/demos/index.shtml

or see it in action and chat with others:
http://www.spinchat.com

It's a highly configurable java chat system.

I would rather like to see one of the OpenSource Chats get integrated into
Zope (e.g. get pseudonym from LoginManager UserSource, integrate
administration in Zope management interface etc.), I'm not very happy with
ZRTChat. http://www.zope.org/Members/jwashin/ZRTChat
It's a great example and "100% Zope", but it will (would) need a lot of
enhancements for prod sites.

Danny

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Not Zope specific, but may be important for many web-masters...

Some days ago I was told to make a chatroom in our site.
I took a look at some products, but no one has satisfied me yet.
If anybody knows about _good_ chatroom, please let me know !

Where _good_ means:
   + highly customizable view of the chatroom
   + non-flickering refresh (I used jzChat from www.javazoom.net, but it
 uses JavaScript on client side, so refresh is flickering)

So, it should be Java applet on client side.
It can be almost anything on server side - Java servlet, Java
stand-alone application, native binary program, standard IRC server, CGI
script, Zope Product, etc...

I don't need many channels at one time.

If you have seen (almost) ready-to-use chatroom solution, your help is
greatly appreciated ! :)

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Re: [Zope] CHAT

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Gonçalo Gomes wrote:
 
 Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP
 space on the web?
 
 Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely
 know, PHP methods seem like a logical step.
 
 this answer was done to my question (i am lucipher) and i asked
 
 "how do you define zope and php?"

Hey, that's cool. When a similar question gets asked by several people,
for the summary, I have to choose.  I thought it was more ... poetic as
I summarized it.

~ethan

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[Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT]

2000-06-02 Thread Stuart 'Zen' Bishop

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] Gonçalo Gomes wrote:

 Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP space on the 
web?
 Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely know, PHP methods 
seem like a logical step.

Hmm... I'm having to setup a PHP web environment for the students next 
semester, and have elected to run it as a CGI application (tie into
existing suid security arcitecture). I'm told there won't be any functionality
loss except, just a bit of performance (?).

If we didn't care about persistance of the PHP engine, it would
be a trivial task to create a PHP method object - just a small
python stub using the CGI libraries to call PHP.

Or even more trivial - I could hack my existing Logger product to
create a dtml-php tag, so you would be able to preprocess your
PHP code with DTML tags or embed PHP output in DTML for standard_html_header
etc. (Is that my foot bleeding?). The standard response to a dtml-python 
tag is that it would make it too PHP like, so dtml-php seems very 
appropriate :-)

And then the next step is to import IMP and other PHP apps into Zope
land...

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT]

2000-06-02 Thread Phil Harris

You do lose some functionality using PHP as CGI rather than module:

Persistent DB Connections, :(


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Subject: [Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT]


 On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] Gonçalo Gomes wrote:

  Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP
space on the web?
  Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely know,
PHP methods seem like a logical step.

 Hmm... I'm having to setup a PHP web environment for the students next
 semester, and have elected to run it as a CGI application (tie into
 existing suid security arcitecture). I'm told there won't be any
functionality
 loss except, just a bit of performance (?).

 If we didn't care about persistance of the PHP engine, it would
 be a trivial task to create a PHP method object - just a small
 python stub using the CGI libraries to call PHP.

 Or even more trivial - I could hack my existing Logger product to
 create a dtml-php tag, so you would be able to preprocess your
 PHP code with DTML tags or embed PHP output in DTML for
standard_html_header
 etc. (Is that my foot bleeding?). The standard response to a dtml-python
 tag is that it would make it too PHP like, so dtml-php seems very
 appropriate :-)

 And then the next step is to import IMP and other PHP apps into Zope
 land...

 --
 Stuart Bishop  Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Senior Systems Alchemist   Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Computer Science, RMIT University



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[Zope] CHAT

2000-06-01 Thread Gonçalo Gomes





Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting 
against PHP space on the web?
Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I 
vaguely know, PHP methods seem like a logical step.
this answer was done to my question (i am lucipher) and i asked
"how do you define zope and php?"
BYE!


[Zope] Zope Chat

2000-05-30 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl
Methods, and more.  Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on
irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel.

If you have any technical questions about joining the chat, feel free to
email me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and I'll help you out.

Ethan Mindlace Fremen
Zopista Community Liason

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Re: [Zope] Zope Chat

2000-05-30 Thread David Trudgett

At 03:40 2000-05-30 -0600, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:

Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl
Methods, and more.  Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on
irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's that in UTC?

Thanks.

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] Zope Chat

2000-05-30 Thread Stuart 'Zen' Bishop

On Wed, 31 May 2000, David Trudgett wrote:

 At 03:40 2000-05-30 -0600, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
 
 Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl
 Methods, and more.  Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on
 irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel.
 
 Sorry for my ignorance, but what's that in UTC?

I think it is American for GMT, so I think it comes out to 3am EST
(thats Australian EST) and well past my bed time.

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