> Any ideas when it will land?
Nope. It's pretty stable now, but any release that shows up in the core
depends on a new BTree implementation, which has been slow in the making.
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Chris McDonough wrote:
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> > Any ideas when it will land?
>
> Nope. It's pretty stable now, but any release that shows up in the core
> depends on a new BTree implementation, which has been slow in the making.
rats... although I'd love to see a snappy new BTree implementation... got lots
of pr
josh on wrote:
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> Is core session a part 2.3?
I thought it was, but it doesn't look like it made it into 2.3.0 :-(
Any ideas when it will land?
cheers,
Chris
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Hi Josh,
No, the core session tracking product does not ship with
2.3. But it does work with it. You can get it from
http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/Products/CoreSessionTracking
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:19:32 -0800
"josh on" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is core session a part 2.3?
> Can
"Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> I think the idiom here will be:
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> > But I don't see how to do that, because if I
> > stick a dtml-with, for instance, into generic header code
> > (included, for example, by standard-html-header, then this
> > with statement is req
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:48:53 -0800 (PST)
Bob Sidebotham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Somebody wrote:
> > > Of course, the best solution would be for the 'magic'
> lookup to be
> > > optional...
>
> Alright, I've not a zope master, but isn't this already
> provided
> generically with:
>
>
--- Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I sympathize with the need to convert all your scripts over to use
> sessioning from hidden form-field encoding and the like... I'd really
> appreciate some input as to what kinds of problems you're trying to
> solve with sessioning.
I don't have a
--- Somebody wrote:
> > Of course, the best solution would be for the 'magic' lookup to be
> > optional...
Alright, I've not a zope master, but isn't this already provided
generically with:
All these arguments leave me a little confused: As a newbie, I read the
zope book, and it tells
Chris McDonough writes:
> So the question becomes: do we want DTML namespace lookup magic or no DTML
> namespace lookup magic for names that we attempt to look up in a session
> data object?
Maybe, we do not want the magic automatically but have
a simple way to call for it, when we like.
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From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dieter Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Sidebotham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> So the question becomes: do we want DTML namespace lookup magic or no DTML
> namespace lookup magic for names that we attempt to look up in a session
> data object? I don't know the answer. I'm so sick of magic at this point
> that I'm apt to vote "no", but if it affo
;Bob Sidebotham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Core Session Tracking kudos & namespaces
> Chris McDonough writes:
> >
> > Currently, nothing would be acquired, and the call will
fa
Chris McDonough writes:
>
> Currently, nothing would be acquired, and the call will fail
> inside of a "with sessiondatamanager" even if we did have a __getattr__
> interface to session data objects
Are you sure?
As I understand it, at least a
would make available all session
> Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> > > sessionmanager.SessionData.a
> > >
> > > ...or something similar?
> >
> > Yes. That's what Bob S. suggested. What are the benefits of this?
>
> More graceful code that's more 'pythonesque' in Python Scripts:
>
> if sessionmanager.SessionData.a['mykey'] == 1:
> ..
Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> You can't do assignment in DTML, and session-tracking needs to be usable
> from DTML, so the "ob.attr = val" idiom is out from the get-go. Another
> assumption I'm making is that "there should only be one way to do it". I'd
> rather not have both __setattr__ and .set
> Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> > > sessionmanager.SessionData.a
> > >
> > > ...or something similar?
> >
> > Yes. That's what Bob S. suggested. What are the benefits of this?
>
> More graceful code that's more 'pythonesque' in Python Scripts:
>
> if sessionmanager.SessionData.a['mykey'] == 1:
> ..
Chris McDonough wrote:
> > sessionmanager.SessionData.a
> >
> > ...or something similar?
>
> Yes. That's what Bob S. suggested. What are the benefits of this?
More graceful code that's more 'pythonesque' in Python Scripts:
if sessionmanager.SessionData.a['mykey'] == 1:
...as opposed to...
if
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> I would have thought this stuff would be better in a python script:
>
> sessionmanager.getSessionData.get('a')
Yeah, I'm jus using DTML because it's the more pathological case and needs
to look pretty in DTML first. :-)
Chris McDonough wrote:
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>
I would have thought this stuff would be better in a python script:
sessionmanager.getSessionData.get('a')
...since it is definitely 'logic'
Would it be posible to make that even nicer and have whatever
getSessionData is implement __ge
pp.
Thanks much for all the input!
- C
- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Sidebotham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Core Session Tracking ku
And as I've just figured out by trying to convert some stuff to
sessions, a not unconsequential result of allowing session variables to
be acquired (if only for read purposes), is that existing code is
easier to adapt. I might now call a script without burying form
variables or parameters in the U
The advantage of the last form (below), is that you can use
acquisition, and don't need to know whether the variable came from the
session or from elsewhere. If you *really* want it to come from the
session only, you can always add the "only" tag to the dtml-with call.
In conjunction with this, i
> 1. The Core Session Tracking looks like it will be really helpful. I AM
> BLOWN AWAY BY THE QUALITY OF THE DOCUMENTATION. Congratulations for
> making really readable, easy to use installation and use instructions.
> Part of the reason I'm so blown away, of course, is that the quality of
> this
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