Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Tres Seaver
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Kedar Dash wrote:
> Let us keep this performance/ maintenance issue aside. is there a way where 
> by 
> this feature can be disabled so that zope does not log this at all.

The standard Zope installation runs on top of the ZODB FileStorage,
which provides this fetaure.  The resource consumption (disk space) can
be mitigated by packing the storage frequently, which removes the older
records.

You can run other applications on top of Zope (e.g., using relational
data), which won't impact it.  There used to be ZODB storaages which
were "packless" or which did not support undo:  AFAIK, none of them are
supported any longer.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Kedar Dash wrote:
> It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope 
> because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its utility 
> in undoing some mistakes.
> 
> How this feature can be disabled in zope. 

The standard FileStorage backend for ZODB and Zope is an append-only 
database.  It would not be possible to remove the append-only nature 
without a complete redesign of FileStorage.  I doubt anyone wants to 
take that on.

There are alternatives to FileStorage, however.  For example, I've 
tinkered with a version of RelStorage that does not save any history. 
It seems to work well, but I haven't released any history-free version yet.

Shane

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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:09 , Kedar Dash wrote:

> Let us keep this performance/ maintenance issue aside. is there a  
> way where by this feature can be disabled so that zope does not log  
> this at all.

No there is not.

jens


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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Andreas Jung
On 02.09.09 10:09, Kedar Dash wrote:
> Let us keep this performance/ maintenance issue aside. is there a way
> where by this feature can be disabled so that zope does not log this
> at all.
Why?
-aj
>
> regards,
>
> Kedar
> Andreas Jung wrote:
>> What is consuming resources? If you don't need the undo form, just don't
>> use it.
>> Otherwise where should be a performance impact during standard Zope
>> operation.
>> Please explain!
>>
>> -aj
>>
>> On 02.09.09 10:00, Kedar Dash wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> thanks for your response.
>>>
>>> I am referring to http://:/manage_UndoForm . Is there a way
>>> where by I can configure zope not to have this logging feature.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Kedar
>>> Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> 
 On 02.09.09 09:40, Kedar Dash wrote:
   
   
> Hi,
>
> It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
> because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
> utility in undoing some mistakes.
> 
> 
 Transaction log? Explain what you mean or claim.

 -aj
   
   
>>
>>
>>   
>


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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Kedar Dash




Let us keep this performance/ maintenance issue aside. is there a way
where by this feature can be disabled so that zope does not log this at
all.

regards,

Kedar
Andreas Jung wrote:

  What is consuming resources? If you don't need the undo form, just don't
use it.
Otherwise where should be a performance impact during standard Zope
operation.
Please explain!

-aj

On 02.09.09 10:00, Kedar Dash wrote:
  
  
Hi

thanks for your response.

I am referring to http://:/manage_UndoForm . Is there a way
where by I can configure zope not to have this logging feature.

regards,

Kedar
Andreas Jung wrote:


  On 02.09.09 09:40, Kedar Dash wrote:
  
  
  
Hi,

It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
utility in undoing some mistakes.


  
  Transaction log? Explain what you mean or claim.

-aj
  
  

  
  

  




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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Andreas Jung
What is consuming resources? If you don't need the undo form, just don't
use it.
Otherwise where should be a performance impact during standard Zope
operation.
Please explain!

-aj

On 02.09.09 10:00, Kedar Dash wrote:
> Hi
>
> thanks for your response.
>
> I am referring to http://:/manage_UndoForm . Is there a way
> where by I can configure zope not to have this logging feature.
>
> regards,
>
> Kedar
> Andreas Jung wrote:
>> On 02.09.09 09:40, Kedar Dash wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
>>> because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
>>> utility in undoing some mistakes.
>>> 
>> Transaction log? Explain what you mean or claim.
>>
>> -aj
>>   
>


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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Kedar Dash




Hi 

thanks for your response. 

I am referring to http://:/manage_UndoForm
. Is
there a way where by I can configure zope not to have this logging
feature. 

regards,

Kedar
Andreas Jung wrote:

  On 02.09.09 09:40, Kedar Dash wrote:
  
  
Hi,

It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
utility in undoing some mistakes.

  
  Transaction log? Explain what you mean or claim.

-aj
  




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Re: [Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Andreas Jung
On 02.09.09 09:40, Kedar Dash wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
> because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
> utility in undoing some mistakes.
Transaction log? Explain what you mean or claim.

-aj
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[Zope] How to disable transaction log feature in zope

2009-09-02 Thread Kedar Dash




Hi,

It seems that lot of system resources are getting consumed in zope
because of its transaction log feature. Ff course it has got its
utility in undoing some mistakes.

How this feature can be disabled in zope.  

regards,

Kedar




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