Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-09-02 Thread Chris Withers

Chris Larsen wrote:

Lennart- the fax piece is something on my exchange server so as long as
the headers are correct it will interpret and route to the physical fax
server accordingly.  The problem is that I can't seem to discover
through googling what these headers look like.  Oh well, something for
the castelle faxpress people (after $250/hr for support ugg).  The smtp
sendable gateway is probably some plugin they have available and I'll
check it out.


I'd just get a packet sniffer such as ethereal up and running and see 
exactly what outlook sends to the exchange server, of course that may or 
may not be useful ;-)


Chris

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Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
What you are trying to do has nothing with SMTP to do. It's fully MS
Outlook specific. You would have to write a mailhost that does not use
SMTP, but integrated directly to an outlook server. I have no idea of
how to do that, or even if it's possible.

What you might want to do instead, is too see if you can make the fax
software you are using be a SMTP-mail to fax gateway. I.e., if you
somehow can send SMTP mails to it. In that case, the mail adress would
be something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], which would be a valid
SMTP address.
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RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-09-01 Thread Chris Larsen
Title: RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost






Thanks guys,

Chris, I saw that existed.. and I do see that it's a lot more straightforward.

Lennart- the fax piece is something on my exchange server so as long as the headers are correct it will interpret and route to the physical fax server accordingly. The problem is that I can't seem to discover through googling what these headers look like. Oh well, something for the castelle faxpress people (after $250/hr for support ugg). The smtp sendable gateway is probably some plugin they have available and I'll check it out.

Just figured someone may have run into this and found a workaround.

Thanks chieftains,
Chrisbob



-Original Message-
From: Lennart Regebro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:27 AM
To: Chris Larsen
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost



What you are trying to do has nothing with SMTP to do. It's fully MS
Outlook specific. You would have to write a mailhost that does not use
SMTP, but integrated directly to an outlook server. I have no idea of
how to do that, or even if it's possible.

What you might want to do instead, is too see if you can make the fax
software you are using be a SMTP-mail to fax gateway. I.e., if you
somehow can send SMTP mails to it. In that case, the mail adress would
be something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], which would be a valid
SMTP address.





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Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/1/05, Chris Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lennart- the fax piece is something on my exchange server so as long as the
 headers are correct it will interpret and route to the physical fax server
 accordingly.  The problem is that I can't seem to discover through googling
 what these headers look like.

Well, most likely the big trick is to figure out the mail address to
send the mail.

  Oh well, something for the castelle faxpress
 people (after $250/hr for support ugg).

Yup.
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[Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Larsen
Title: Sending Fax through MailHost






Hi,

I'm trying to put a fax number into the To: field of the mailhost header and am not having much luck. Obviously the standard for this is to address the email to [FAX:18479131145] but when I do [FAX:1dtml-var faxnum] it just tells me that there are no recipients designated.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
chris




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RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Larsen
Title: Sending Fax through MailHost








Sorry for the slim amount of information..
heres what my dtml-sendmail header looks like:



dtml-sendmail
mailhost=MailHost

To: [Fax:18478767346] 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: dtml-in
select_messagedtml-var subject 

dtml-mime type=text/html
disposition=inline encode=7bit













From: Chris Larsen 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
1:19 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Sending Fax
through MailHost





Hi,

I'm trying to put a fax number into the To: field of the mailhost
header and am not having much luck. Obviously the standard for this is to
address the email to [FAX:18479131145] but when I do [FAX:1dtml-var
faxnum] it just tells me that there are no recipients designated.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
chris






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RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Larsen
Title: Sending Fax through MailHost








By the way, I did notice that in my
address in outlook its specified as the email-type FAX
and when I put a normal email address in it is email type SMTP.
I guess when you do [fax: ] it changes the email-type to FAX and uses the
number as the address.



I am thinking there would have to be an
additional header line similar to content-type but I dont know where
this would go or what it would be. Is this even supported (or
supportable??)



Thanks,

chris









From: Chris Larsen 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
1:19 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Sending Fax
through MailHost





Hi,

I'm trying to put a fax number into the To: field of the mailhost
header and am not having much luck. Obviously the standard for this is to
address the email to [FAX:18479131145] but when I do [FAX:1dtml-var
faxnum] it just tells me that there are no recipients designated.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
chris






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Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-08-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 31 Aug 2005, at 22:29, Chris Larsen wrote:

By the way, I did notice that in my address in outlook it’s  
specified as the “email-type” “FAX” and when I put a normal email  
address in it is “email type” “SMTP”.  I guess when you do [fax: ]  
it changes the email-type to FAX and uses the number as the address.



I am thinking there would have to be an additional header line  
similar to content-type but I don’t know where this would go or  
what it would be.  Is this even supported (or supportable??)


What you are trying to do is not supported because your FAX addresses  
are not valid and legal email addresses. MailHost will simply ignore  
them. You would have to write your own implementation that does  
something intelligent with those odd addresses.


jens

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RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Larsen
Title: RE: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost






thanks

-Original Message-
From: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:57 PM
To: zope user list
Subject: Re: [Zope] Sending Fax through MailHost




On 31 Aug 2005, at 22:29, Chris Larsen wrote:

 By the way, I did notice that in my address in outlook its
 specified as the email-type FAX and when I put a normal email
 address in it is email type SMTP. I guess when you do [fax: ]
 it changes the email-type to FAX and uses the number as the address.


 I am thinking there would have to be an additional header line
 similar to content-type but I dont know where this would go or
 what it would be. Is this even supported (or supportable??)

What you are trying to do is not supported because your FAX addresses
are not valid and legal email addresses. MailHost will simply ignore
them. You would have to write your own implementation that does
something intelligent with those odd addresses.

jens

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