Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 - thanks :-)

2001-01-18 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:06:25PM -, Chris Withers wrote:
> > This suddenly rings a bell; I remember now that NS4 seems to have a
> > 'grid' system for laying out frames. It snaps to certain sizes, and
> > adding a few pixels plus or minus won't get you a visible change.
> > Sizing of frames can only happen in larger steps.
> 
> Wow that sucks :-(
> 
> How does Mozilla/Netscape 6 fare on this?

It doesn't use the same code-base, so I must assume for now it doesn't
have the same problem. Enough people have been using it in the early
development days to kick up a big fuss if it did.

It has been a while since I had to know about these things though.

> > this (especially when using bordelress frames).
> 
> Speaking, of which, how about making that top frame (and maybe the side
> frame) borderless? The left frame still needs to be resisable, so the
> boirder may have to stay there...

Half borders are painful to look at, if they can be specified that way in
the first place. You don't *need* the border for resizability BTW, but you
do need a visual clue there is a border there to grab and move. A
contracting frame background could help there.

> PS: It's really cool how you actually listened to your users and provided an
> easy way to change a feature that they didn't like. I still use Office '95
> at home 'cos that *&^*&ing paperclip proved so annoying ;-)

You *do* know you can switch the paperclip off, don't you? ;)

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 - thanks :-)

2001-01-17 Thread Chris Withers

> This suddenly rings a bell; I remember now that NS4 seems to have a 'grid'
> system for laying out frames. It snaps to certain sizes, and adding a few
> pixels plus or minus won't get you a visible change. Sizing of frames can
> only happen in larger steps.

Wow that sucks :-(

How does Mozilla/Netscape 6 fare on this?

> this (especially when using bordelress frames).

Speaking, of which, how about making that top frame (and maybe the side
frame) borderless? The left frame still needs to be resisable, so the
boirder may have to stay there...

cheers,

Chris

PS: It's really cool how you actually listened to your users and provided an
easy way to change a feature that they didn't like. I still use Office '95
at home 'cos that *&^*&ing paperclip proved so annoying ;-)


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