Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 05:12 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org: our own certificate is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate which expired even longer ago:

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. It’s pretty obvious the various parts that make up the community like mailing lists, website, forums etc have been dead or dying for a long time. Will Zope ever get back to 2005-2006 levels…?

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be. It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Harley wrote: It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. The whole Zope project is as open as

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
You were misunderstanding me, I am not claiming that. I said It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, it’s that anyone building a new application will not use Zope” I am saying there is nothing wrong with the open sourceness of Zope. That wasn’t very clear, apologies. My concerns

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 05:12 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Our SPF record says that mail should only be coming from them, so Google is bouncing those messages. We need either to fix it so that mail comes from the 'mail.zope.org' IP, or else add the other host to

[Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Jean Jordaan
Hi all I've been unsubscribed from the Zope mailing lists due to excessive bounces. So for some reason despite my clicking ignore, I trust this message 100s of times, gmail doesn't like the mails zope.org sends. When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: I've been unsubscribed from the Zope mailing lists due to excessive bounces. So for some reason despite my clicking ignore, I trust this message 100s of times, gmail doesn't like the mails zope.org

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Sean Upton
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status for the certificate.

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Johannes Raggam
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:07 -0600, Sean Upton wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to

Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Johannes Raggam
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:12 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: When I try to use the Kontakt (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it pops up an empty div: div class=pb-ajaxdiv/div/div. Ugh, I don't recall now where the software lives for that. CC'ing the