RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Jon Franz wrote: > This looks very cool - the HTMl jive, that is. I'm going to mod it some, > and get permission from the author to incorporate it into Zope... I'll add > some features like search and replace also... > > >>> > -Original Message- > From: Gidon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:12 AM > To: Jon Franz > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized > formofXML) > > > > Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor? > Something > > with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker, > > search/replace, etc? If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output Also jedit http://jedit.sourceforge.net/ Pavlos ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)
- Original Message - From: Jon Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Gidon Friedman' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML) > This looks very cool - the HTMl jive, that is. I'm going to mod it some, > and get permission from the author to incorporate it into Zope... I'll add > some features like search and replace also... GO TO:LineNumber will be very useful ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)
This looks very cool - the HTMl jive, that is. I'm going to mod it some, and get permission from the author to incorporate it into Zope... I'll add some features like search and replace also... >>> -Original Message- From: Gidon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:12 AM To: Jon Franz Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML) > Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor? Something > with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker, > search/replace, etc? If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output as > a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers... that would be nice, but you would have to build one yourself. Java Swing has an HTMLEditorKit, but i never tried to use it. have a look at: http://www.mokabyte.it/1999/12/htmleditor.htm it explains in italian how to do it (untested). or you could use javascript: http://www.cris.com/~raydaly/htmljive.html Gidon <<< ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)
> Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor? Something > with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker, > search/replace, etc? If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output as > a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers... that would be nice, but you would have to build one yourself. Java Swing has an HTMLEditorKit, but i never tried to use it. have a look at: http://www.mokabyte.it/1999/12/htmleditor.htm it explains in italian how to do it (untested). or you could use javascript: http://www.cris.com/~raydaly/htmljive.html Gidon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form ofXML)
> Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor? > Something > with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker, > search/replace, etc? If there is one, we could mod it to spit > its output as > a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers... Haven't test any of these but here's some URLS http://freshmeat.net/appindex/2000/02/17/950801940.html http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/09/11/937058123.html > > Also, its not XML compliant either, but I have a shorter dtml syntax patch > available for download at: > > http://www.zope.org/Members/Coventry/dtml_shortcut > > it is a really small patch, and just allows <: to replace inside your documents, such as in the snippet below: > > <:var foo> > <:if expr="la=lala"> > So you think la and lala are the same!? > <:else> > Ah, so you see a diffrence! > > > it just leads to less typing. Comming from the asp/php world (as > of late, I > also do C and Perl), I got used to typing a lot less > characters to switch > from markup to scripting, and so figured I'd dive in and make > this change... > My 'wordfile.txt' for ultraedit will include this alternate syntax too. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Eric L. Walstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 6:14 PM > To: Jon Franz > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized > form ofXML) > > > Hi Jon, > > Regarding Ultra-edit32 > > // and the file 'wordlist.txt' it uses can be > // edited easily to > // add new tags or keywords, or to define whole new languages of tags and > // keywords. > > Have you created a 'wordlist.txt' file that handles the DTML tags? If so, > would you mind sharing it? > > Thanks, > > Eric. > > ___ > Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be > made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows? > Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've > seen on the list. > Anything else that works? you can extend vim to tag hilight dtml, if you want. I'd certainly love to see it. http://www.vim.org/lang.html would be where to start. I think you could do the same thing with emacs, if you were so inclined. ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)
OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows? Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've seen on the list. Anything else that works? Cheers, Jan ... see you at Linuxtag 2000 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form ofXML)
I dont have one off hand, I usually use the built in browser based editor. hrm. I'll setup one up over the weekend (I've done it in the past for asp and such, so its old hat for me) Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor? Something with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker, search/replace, etc? If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output as a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers... Also, its not XML compliant either, but I have a shorter dtml syntax patch available for download at: http://www.zope.org/Members/Coventry/dtml_shortcut it is a really small patch, and just allows <: to replace <:if expr="la=lala"> So you think la and lala are the same!? <:else> Ah, so you see a diffrence! it just leads to less typing. Comming from the asp/php world (as of late, I also do C and Perl), I got used to typing a lot less characters to switch from markup to scripting, and so figured I'd dive in and make this change... My 'wordfile.txt' for ultraedit will include this alternate syntax too. -Original Message- From: Eric L. Walstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 6:14 PM To: Jon Franz Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form ofXML) Hi Jon, Regarding Ultra-edit32 // and the file 'wordlist.txt' it uses can be // edited easily to // add new tags or keywords, or to define whole new languages of tags and // keywords. Have you created a 'wordlist.txt' file that handles the DTML tags? If so, would you mind sharing it? Thanks, Eric. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)
Hi Jon, Regarding Ultra-edit32 // and the file 'wordlist.txt' it uses can be // edited easily to // add new tags or keywords, or to define whole new languages of tags and // keywords. Have you created a 'wordlist.txt' file that handles the DTML tags? If so, would you mind sharing it? Thanks, Eric. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)
You might try Homesite, it has a Tag Definitions Library. I haven't taken the time to try myself yet but even so I would recommend Homesite for editing over VS6(for HTML anyway). I looked at it briefly and it seems like you can add your own tags. I will probably try this weekend and see if it works. Has anybody done this already? Jeff Peterson Software Engineer The Bridge/Befera Interactive Cablenet > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric > L. Walstad > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:19 AM > To: Paul Everitt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form > of XML) > > > // b. Make it possible for some HTML editors that can extend their tag > // database to recognize DTML tags. > Maybe this is a little off topic, but did you have an editor in mind when > you changed the syntax? Can you recommend an HTML editor that runs on > Windows that will do this? I am currently coding DTML in VisualC++'s IDE > using VBScript to paste in the DTML. This method works OK, but > if there is > something better, I'd love to hear about it. > Thanks, > Eric. > > > ___ > Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formof XML)
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Eric L. Walstad wrote: > Maybe this is a little off topic, but did you have an editor in mind when > you changed the syntax? Can you recommend an HTML editor that runs on > Windows that will do this? I am currently coding DTML in VisualC++'s IDE > using VBScript to paste in the DTML. This method works OK, but if there is > something better, I'd love to hear about it. All our webmasters here use HomeSite. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Oleg Broytmann Foundation for Effective Policies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
Bill Anderson wrote: > GVIM Yes! This is a powerful editor with an easy-to-use interface available for every major platform (and a lot of minor ones): http://www.vim.org http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?EmacsVsVi I use Vim daily on Mac OS, Win98 and Unix (Linux, Slowlaris) and love the consistent cross-plattform UI. Cheers, Nils ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
Yeah, I made one in Python a while back, but it's not quite the same as having it built into the editor itself. Something like the Emacs Ange-FTP in GVIM and I'd be a total convert. - Original Message - From: "John A Chaves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phil Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Wright, Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 26 May 2000 23:19 Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS > Phil Harris wrote: > > > > I'd like to third that but Can't because GVIM doesn't have a FTP client. > > You can simulate one fairly easily. The attached script (which would need > to be tweaked for your environment) ftp-gets the zope object into a temp > directory. It also creates a Makefile in the temp directory which ftp-puts > the object back into zope. You can then use the GVIM "make" button (looks > like a hammer) to save your changes and push them back to zope. > > zope-ftpedit > #!/bin/sh > > . $HOME/zope/setenv > TOOL=gvim > > usage="$0 [hostname] filepath" > > case $# in > 1) MACHINE=`uname -n` > TARGET=$1 > ;; > 2) MACHINE=$1 > TARGET=$2 > ;; > *) echo "$usage"; exit 1;; > esac > > # account name and password kept in separate file > OPTS="-f $HOME/zope/etc/ncftp.$MACHINE -P $ZOPE_FTP" > TDIR="`dirname $TARGET`" > TFILE="`basename $TARGET`" > > > # make tmp dir > > TMPBASE=/tmp/`basename $0` > NUM=$$ > while [ -e $TMPBASE.$NUM ] > do > NUM=`expr $NUM + 1` > done > TMPDIR=$TMPBASE.$NUM > > mkdir $TMPDIR || exit 1 > cd $TMPDIR || exit 1 > > # load requested file > > GETCMD="ncftpget $OPTS . $TARGET" > PUTCMD="ncftpput $OPTS $TDIR $TFILE" > > cat <Makefile || exit 1 > # tmpdir is $TMPDIR > > timestamp: $TFILE > $PUTCMD > touch timestamp > > put: > $PUTCMD > > get: > $GETCMD > > edit: > $TOOL $TFILE > !! > > echo "$0 tmpdir is $TMPDIR" > make get edit > > # vim:sw=2:sts=2 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
Phil Harris wrote: > > I'd like to third that but Can't because GVIM doesn't have a FTP client. You can simulate one fairly easily. The attached script (which would need to be tweaked for your environment) ftp-gets the zope object into a temp directory. It also creates a Makefile in the temp directory which ftp-puts the object back into zope. You can then use the GVIM "make" button (looks like a hammer) to save your changes and push them back to zope. zope-ftpedit #!/bin/sh . $HOME/zope/setenv TOOL=gvim usage="$0 [hostname] filepath" case $# in 1) MACHINE=`uname -n` TARGET=$1 ;; 2) MACHINE=$1 TARGET=$2 ;; *) echo "$usage"; exit 1;; esac # account name and password kept in separate file OPTS="-f $HOME/zope/etc/ncftp.$MACHINE -P $ZOPE_FTP" TDIR="`dirname $TARGET`" TFILE="`basename $TARGET`" # make tmp dir TMPBASE=/tmp/`basename $0` NUM=$$ while [ -e $TMPBASE.$NUM ] do NUM=`expr $NUM + 1` done TMPDIR=$TMPBASE.$NUM mkdir $TMPDIR || exit 1 cd $TMPDIR || exit 1 # load requested file GETCMD="ncftpget $OPTS . $TARGET" PUTCMD="ncftpput $OPTS $TDIR $TFILE" cat
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
I'd like to third that but Can't because GVIM doesn't have a FTP client. If your using Win32 take a look at HTMLKit (www.chami.com). It's a free HomeSite thingy, it's brilliant. - Original Message - From: "Wright, Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 26 May 2000 20:51 Subject: RE: [Zope] HTML EDITORS > > -Original Message- > > From: Bill Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:21 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS > > > > > > Luis Cortes wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice > > with dtml tags? > > > > > > Do anybody have anything they can really recommend? > > > > GVIM > > I'll second that. > > And it works just as nicely on Windoze as it does on *NIX. If you you're > interested in using it, I'll send you my vimrc. It's well simple and > well-commented. I don't have any special syntax stuff for dtml, but find > that > the standard html highting works just fine. > > If you haven't dealt with vi before, you'll find the learing curve a bit > steep, but you'll _love_ it when you get the hang of it. And if you come > from a GUI world, gvim gives you all the little niceites you're used to, > like cut & paste, scroll bars, mouse-based highlighting and that sort of > thing. Of couse, once you get used to gvim, you can just hide your mouse > under you desk form most of the day :) > > ___ > Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS > > > Luis Cortes wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice > with dtml tags? > > > > Do anybody have anything they can really recommend? > > GVIM I'll second that. And it works just as nicely on Windoze as it does on *NIX. If you you're interested in using it, I'll send you my vimrc. It's well simple and well-commented. I don't have any special syntax stuff for dtml, but find that the standard html highting works just fine. If you haven't dealt with vi before, you'll find the learing curve a bit steep, but you'll _love_ it when you get the hang of it. And if you come from a GUI world, gvim gives you all the little niceites you're used to, like cut & paste, scroll bars, mouse-based highlighting and that sort of thing. Of couse, once you get used to gvim, you can just hide your mouse under you desk form most of the day :) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
Luis Cortes wrote: > > Hello, > > Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice with dtml tags? > > Do anybody have anything they can really recommend? GVIM ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
hi, if your not into the wysiwyg editors try this: http://home.sol.no/~natt/ncs/prod.htm HTMLNotepad is really nice. it's super simple and has no problem that i've found with DTML - it colorizes the DTML just like normal HTML. this is freeware too! since i started as webmaster here i've turned a few people on to it and they all love it. better than using plain text editor. -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis Cortes Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] HTML EDITORS Hello, Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice with dtml tags? Do anybody have anything they can really recommend? Thanks for the advice, Luis. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Luis Cortes wrote: > Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice with dtml tags? > Do anybody have anything they can really recommend? All our webmasters (I am a programmer here) use HomeSite. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Oleg Broytmann Foundation for Effective Policies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
