Re: [Zope-dev] Re: 2.3.3 - 2.5.1b2 upgrade problem

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Withers
Shane Hathaway wrote: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/BetterTracebacks All the work described (besides the documentation and Dieter's suggestion of adding error_tb to the default standard_error_message) is checked into the trunk. No more invalid HTML. :-) Well, it's only

Re: [Zope-dev] Speaking of 2.6...

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Withers
Anthony Baxter wrote: deliberately-trolling-for-ChrisW-ly yrs, :-P Chris - stay in the stone age, I hear they have fire there ;-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or

Re: [Zope-dev] Undoability on a per-object basis

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: It would be best to make make a dual-mode undoing and nonundoing storage on a per-object basis. ...if anyone achieves this, I will have plenty of beer to send to them. Chris - please, pretty please :-) ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Speaking of 2.6...

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Baxter
Chris - stay in the stone age, I hear they have fire there ;-) mmm. fre pretty. Page Templates burn, don't dey. Be a shame if somefing was to happen to your nice shiny website. Anthony, who might have been spending too long in the bad places of SQL.

Re: [Zope-dev] Speaking of 2.6...

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Withers
Anthony Baxter wrote: Anthony, who might have been spending too long in the bad places of SQL. Maybe getting hooked back on the PHP too? I saw ya, that dodgy bloke in the street, money changing hands... *grinz* Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Enhanced MailHost (was: Speaking of 2.6...)

2002-04-18 Thread Nils Kassube
Hello Brian. * Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-17 20:29]: Ok. I'd like to run the mbox thing by Jim to see if he has any The product now uses a Maildir-style approach to deal with concurrent writes. The creation of the file name uses time(), gethostname() and randint() to hopefully

Re: [Zope-dev] how bad are per-request-write-transactions

2002-04-18 Thread Jeremy Hylton
CM == Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Completely agreed. My disagreement is portraying the counter problem as impossible with the zodb. I think some people, as evidenced by some of the responses, are willing to live with the tradeoffs. Other people will find managing a

[Zope-dev] _v_ and ZEO

2002-04-18 Thread Florent Guillaume
Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever a write comes in at the over-ten-second mark, you write the _v_ attribute to the persistent attribute. That would be bad. _v_ attributes are lost when the object is deactivated and removed from the ZODB memory cache It would lose the

Re: [Zope-dev] _v_ and ZEO

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Florent Guillaume wrote: Or am I misunderstanding something ? My question really relates to any use of _v_ as a cache that can survive on publisher transaction, really. Should _v_ never be used like that ? There's a case to be made for attributes that not persisted (like _v_ attributes)

Re: [Zope-dev] how bad are per-request-write-transactions

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Jeremy Hylton wrote: CM == Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Completely agreed. My disagreement is portraying the counter problem as impossible with the zodb. I think some people, as evidenced by some of the responses, are willing to live with the tradeoffs. Other

Re: [Zope-dev] how bad are per-request-write-transactions

2002-04-18 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jeremy Hylton wrote: CM == Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Completely agreed. My disagreement is portraying the counter problem as impossible with the zodb. I think some people, as evidenced by some of the responses, are willing to live with the tradeoffs. Other

Re: [Zope-dev] _v_ and ZEO

2002-04-18 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:23:15 + (UTC), Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of a question I had: given that (from what I understand) _v_ attributes only live in the object cache of a given Zope, True, and more accurate that I think you expected The issue is that

Re: [Zope-dev] _v_ and ZEO

2002-04-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Ive never looked at LDAPUserFolder so this may be irrelevant, but is it possible for LDAPUserFolder to validate that the cached _v_ information is still fresh? If that validation is quicker than fetching a new copy then this is still an overall win. yes it does have a very rough way of

Re: [Zope-dev] _v_ and ZEO

2002-04-18 Thread Florent Guillaume
Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of a question I had: given that (from what I understand) _v_ attributes only live in the object cache of a given Zope, True, and more accurate that I think you expected The issue is that one Zope has more than one ZODB object

Re: [Zope-dev] Need to instantiate zclass in location other than current

2002-04-18 Thread Dieter Maurer
Max Slimmer writes: I have created a zclass and want to create a new instance of this class and have it be child of some other know object in the tree. Given that we know the path (url) to the new prospective parent how do we do this. You locate the destination object with