Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: Apart from the most trivial cases, it would allow _v_ attributes to disappear at random. Its a similar problem to the one that makes it hard to write an optimiser for python code, and I am unconvinced that this is sane. Which, unfortunately, then leaves us with the problem

Re: [Zope-dev] _p_deactivate() and _v_ variables?

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:07, Chris Withers wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: Apart from the most trivial cases, it would allow _v_ attributes to disappear at random. Its a similar problem to the one that makes it hard to write an optimiser for python code, and I am unconvinced that this is

Re: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org down

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 18:08, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Just a quick heads-up: Then we will start restoring the data from the old drives. That makes me nervous. How will you know that the sources in cvs havent been compromised? -- Toby Dickenson

Re: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org down

2003-10-23 Thread Anthony Baxter
Toby Dickenson wrote That makes me nervous. How will you know that the sources in cvs havent been compromised? Surely people can compare checkouts of the various branches (2.6, 2.7) against downloaded tarballs? We can't do the same with TRUNK, but that should be still possible to check

[Zope-dev] java + zope

2003-10-23 Thread Bibikov Kirill
How can I make java + zope integration for web application development? Have it somthing for this? Does it must to know Python, is it necessary? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] java + zope

2003-10-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 16:06 Uhr +0400 \Bibikov Kirill\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I make java + zope integration for web application development? Have it something for this? Does it must to know Python, is it necessary? Zope has never been designed to work with Java except

RE: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org down

2003-10-23 Thread Brian Lloyd
Toby Dickenson wrote That makes me nervous. How will you know that the sources in cvs havent been compromised? Surely people can compare checkouts of the various branches (2.6, 2.7) against downloaded tarballs? We can't do the same with TRUNK, but that should be still possible

[Zope-dev] Non-webdav calls on the source port

2003-10-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
With Zope 2.6, you get an unhelpful error message about manage_FTPget not existing. With the changes I have just checked in, you now instead get an attribute error for most objects. (If the object does not inherit from webdav.Resource you still get an not found message). Nobody is relying on

[Zope-dev] Zope .NET

2003-10-23 Thread Martin Kretschmar
Hello, I'm amidth creating a document on the possibilities of Zope, and we are also using Zope. But somehow I'm missing an official Zope for .NET. ActiveState (http://www.activestate.com) has a Visual Python 1.8.1 for VS.NET.2002 and VS.NET.2003. I have been playing around a little bit with

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope .NET

2003-10-23 Thread Andy McKay
So could please somebody give me a short briefing about the current state of Zope for .NET? There is no state. ActiveState released Python for .NET and that's about it. Quoting Python for .NET is an exploratory implementation of the Python language

Re: [Zope-dev] java + zope

2003-10-23 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 03:13:56PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 16:06 Uhr +0400 \Bibikov Kirill\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I make java + zope integration for web application development? Have it something for this? Does it must to know Python, is it

[Zope-dev] _v_ variables and cache garbage collection

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: No, we just exclude objects with _v_ attribute from mid-transaction deactivation. There arent many objects in that category, but they do need protection. This is slightly OT but reminded me of something important I need to ask. ZOracleDA stores its database connections in

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RAM usage, _v_ variables and the ZODB cache

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Withers
Toby Dickenson wrote: Which, unfortunately, then leaves us with the problem of how to stop Zope using up an undeterminable amount of memory... No, we just exclude objects with _v_ attribute from mid-transaction deactivation. There arent many objects in that category, but they do need

[Zope-dev] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi everyone, The issue collectors formerly hosted on collector.zope.org have been migrated to the main zope.org website and are now available at the following address:: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/ I have tried to find all links to these collectors, but there might be old links in various

Re: [Zope-dev] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Andreas Jung
When I look at the default search results for the Zope collector then the latest pending issue has been filed in May which is nearly impossible. There must be something wrong. Andreas --On Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 14:37 Uhr -0400 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, The

Re: [Zope-dev] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Already fixed. jens On Thursday, Oct 23, 2003, at 14:58 US/Eastern, Andreas Jung wrote: When I look at the default search results for the Zope collector then the latest pending issue has been filed in May which is nearly impossible. There must be something wrong. Andreas

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On the new collector instances the high size of a collection of objects seems to be limited to 200. Aha! Here we have evidence that someone has hardcoded the number 200 as the upper limit for the number of catalog results returned from the portal catalog on zope.org. This happens with howtos

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Chris McDonough
Aha! This is likely due to the monkey-patched searchResults method of the catalog tool. It is patched from within the ZopeOrg product's __init__.py: if not kw.has_key('sort_limit'): kw['sort_limit'] = 200 I'm sure this was put into there to foil some sort of DOS, but I think it

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Chris McDonough
I see it's already fixed, thanks... On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 16:39, Chris McDonough wrote: Aha! This is likely due to the monkey-patched searchResults method of the catalog tool. It is patched from within the ZopeOrg product's __init__.py: if not kw.has_key('sort_limit'):

[Zope-dev] Re: _v_ variables and cache garbage collection

2003-10-23 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 23 October 2003 18:52, Chris Withers wrote: What in the ZODB cache or other ZODB code could be causing _v_ variables to stick around after they've been set to None in their containing objects? reference cycles -- Toby Dickenson ___

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Brian Lloyd
Er - this one's my fault :) When I first started triage on nzo there were a number of places where it was doing totally unbounded searches and them sorting them for good measure. I put that in as a stopgap so it would quit dying while I was trying to find the culprits and forgot to remove it.

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] New location for Zope Collectors

2003-10-23 Thread Chris McDonough
OK, I thought it was fixed (and is fixed for the collector) but I guess a workaround was just put in for collectors because other batches are still limited to 200... should be safe to remove it and close some zope.org bugs. On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 22:09, Brian Lloyd wrote: Er - this one's my fault