Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Oliver Bleutgen wrote: Very niceinteresting thread ... Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Craeg K. Strong wrote: - Because of acquisition, you can add behavior to objects without changing their class definitions. Can you please elaborate more on this? I'm sure Craeg can and will, but

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Craeg K. Strong wrote: Hello: I am the author of this paper (mea culpa! :-) and I thought I would respond to your comments. First off, thanks for thorough and thoughtful review. My responses are embedded below: Craeg, I have to thank you for giving us such good opportunity to learn

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
seb bacon wrote: A few points I'd like to add. Before I do, a disclaimer: I've never used Cocoon, and I really like Zope. Having said that, I've used lots of other 'competing' systems, and I am able to see Zope's weak points. Some don't think this 'cloning restriction' a severe

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-26 Thread Oliver Bleutgen
Very niceinteresting thread ... Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Craeg K. Strong wrote: - Because of acquisition, you can add behavior to objects without changing their class definitions. Can you please elaborate more on this? I'm sure Craeg can and will, but there's IMO a very nice explanation

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-25 Thread Craeg K. Strong
Hello: I am the author of this paper (mea culpa! :-) and I thought I would respond to your comments. First off, thanks for thorough and thoughtful review. My responses are embedded below: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: First, kudos to Gianugo for finding the ask-slashdot thread about 'zope vs.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-25 Thread seb bacon
A few points I'd like to add. Before I do, a disclaimer: I've never used Cocoon, and I really like Zope. Having said that, I've used lots of other 'competing' systems, and I am able to see Zope's weak points. Some don't think this 'cloning restriction' a severe limitation, I think this is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Max M wrote: seb bacon wrote: Architecturally, it is *excellent*, and I'm very excited about it. I could wax on for hours, but I won't right now. I only wish somebody would ... It is hard to figure it out fully by reading only the online documentation. Do the tutorial:

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-25 Thread Stephan Richter
At 02:07 PM 2/25/2002 +, Steve Alexander wrote: I only wish somebody would ... It is hard to figure it out fully by reading only the online documentation. Do the tutorial: http://cvs.zope.org/Docs/Docs.tar.gz?tarball=1 Well, and I'll repeat my offer from IPC10: In case you or your company

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon

2002-02-25 Thread Gilles Lenfant
months of Zope practice before knowing how to place the best objects at the best place. --Gilles - Original Message - From: seb bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon