Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.1 release

2009-10-26 Thread yuppie
Andreas Jung wrote:
> I plan to release Zope 2.12.1 on November 2nd, 2009.
> 
> Objections or open issues?

I'd like to nominate this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/461446

It's a regression.

Cheers, Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12: mkzopeinstance, runzope and zopectl - a small proposal

2009-10-26 Thread yuppie
Hi Chris!


Chris Withers wrote:
> (updating myself much much later)

(replying much much later)

> Chris Withers wrote:
>> yuppie wrote:
> You ripped my sentence out of context. We were talking about Zope 
> 2.12. And Zope 2.12 currently doesn't use buildout for setting up 
> instances.
 Sure it does. I've published the recipe. There's no more needed than 
 that...
>>> Your recipe is not published as part of Zope 2.12. 
>> I'm not sure it needs to...
> 
> It will be once Jens cranks the handle:
> 
> http://svn.zope.org/Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst?rev=104817&view=auto
> 
>>> And it doesn't work on Windows.
>> Have you tried it?
> 
> ...if you had, you would have noticed that the Win32 service stuff as 
> broken, even without using buildout.

No. I did have tried with mkzopeinstance and zopeservice.py. And it did 
work for me.

> I've now fixed that, and I'm happy to report that the buildout-based 
> instances work just fine on Windows, and buildout instance or not, you 
> no longer need that silly zopeservice.py file in your instance.

That's a great improvement. I just found a small regression, see 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/461446

> So, no excuse for needing mkzopeinstance and its ilk anymore ;-)

In some situations I still prefer the classic way to create instances.

You might have noticed that the "Creating a classic Zope Instance" 
section in INSTALL.rst is much simpler than the "Creating a 
buildout-based Zope Instance" section.

And there is still the question about the right way to work with dev 
eggs. I quote your question from an other mail in this thread because I 
didn't answer it so far:

>> The dev eggs are local to my dev buildout, but not local to the test 
>> instances.
>
> What does this actually mean? For me, a "dev egg" is usually just an svn 
> checkout, specified in {buildout:develop}. For me, they're never usually in 
> any "buildout", unless the package itself is buildout-driven and I'm actually 
> developing it, but that has nothing to do with my test instances... That 
> said, I often use a few "dev eggs" that aren't buildout driven at all, so I 
> really fail to see your point...

http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/CMF.buildout/trunk has a src directory 
with several svn externals. Buildout includes the dev eggs from the src 
directory.

http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/buildouts/plone-coredev/trunk uses 
mr.developer to use the src directory in a similar way.

The dev eggs are created before running the buildout command, but they 
belong to a specific buildout.

That sometimes makes "buildout-based" Zope instances more clumsy than 
classic instances.


Cheers,

Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.1 release

2009-10-26 Thread Andreas Jung
Am 26.10.09 14:13, schrieb Eric Steele:
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
>> I plan to release Zope 2.12.1 on November 2nd, 2009.
>>
>> Objections or open issues?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>
> For what it's worth, that'd be perfect timing for Plone 4. I'm hoping
> to put out a first alpha right after the conference and we'll need
> 2.12.1 to do so. 
Give Andi Zeidler a gentle kick :)

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.1 release

2009-10-26 Thread Eric Steele
On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
> I plan to release Zope 2.12.1 on November 2nd, 2009.
>
> Objections or open issues?
>
> Andreas
>

For what it's worth, that'd be perfect timing for Plone 4. I'm hoping  
to put out a first alpha right after the conference and we'll need  
2.12.1 to do so.

Eric

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.1 release

2009-10-26 Thread Andreas Jung
Am 26.10.09 10:25, schrieb Sylvain Viollon:
>
>   I agree it will be great, if that issue is fixed:
>
>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/360761
>
>   Otherwise, I still can't used Zope 2.12.
>
>   Best regards,
>
>   Sylvain,
>   
@Andi: could you please give some love to this issue?

Andreas
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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-10-26 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Sun Oct 25 13:00:00 2009 UTC to Mon Oct 26 13:00:00 2009 UTC.
There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:46:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012880.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:48:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012881.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:50:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012882.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:52:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012883.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:54:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012884.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:56:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012885.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 21:58:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012886.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Oct 25 22:00:08 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012887.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] proposal: Custom schema properties

2009-10-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/25/09 15:08 , Adam GROSZER wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Custom schema properties proposal
> =
>
> The problem
> 
> is that we have a "baseline" project. This baseline project gets
> customized for each client. Each client has different (usually just a
> little bit) needs in terms of field titles and field required.
>
> The real problem is, to achieve this we have to create a new interface
> with the overridden field. This starts the domino effect, we have to
> create a new class, this new class needs to be instantiated, new add
> form, new edit form and register those. A hell lot of code to support
> that tiny change.

Doesn't http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.behavior provide exactly that 
feature? I'm pretty sure we can get that BSD licensed if it's helpful.

WIchert.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.1 release

2009-10-26 Thread Sylvain Viollon
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:15:54 +0200
Andreas Jung  wrote:

  Hello,

> I plan to release Zope 2.12.1 on November 2nd, 2009.
> 
> Objections or open issues?
>

  I agree it will be great, if that issue is fixed:

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/360761

  Otherwise, I still can't used Zope 2.12.

  Best regards,

  Sylvain,

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