Re: [Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

On 12/21/2010 10:05 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Thanks for giving it a shot Christian!  I always read the meeting notes,
> if I didn't participate.

Thanks, good to know that. :)

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-12-22 11:13, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> I am frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads
>>> since July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that
>>> are not part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree.
>>
>> If only those bugreports would get some response :)
>
> You having an outstanding one to me? :-) I have addressed all the ones in my
> inbox in July. :-) I could find some time in the next days to do another round
> of bug fixing.

I added three tickets on launchpad in October :). A big problem for me 
appears to be that z3c.rml implements an older version of RML, so a lot 
of the directives in the RML documentation fail (at least of the few I 
wanted to use). And since z3c.rml silently ignores unsupported tags it 
took me quite some time to determine that the problem was not in my RML.

Wichert.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > I am frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads
> > since July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that
> > are not part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree.
> 
> If only those bugreports would get some response :)

You having an outstanding one to me? :-) I have addressed all the ones in my 
inbox in July. :-) I could find some time in the next days to do another round 
of bug fixing.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope-dev] One z3c.rml test failure on Linux -- bug in ReportLab?

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> So you're saying this is a bug in z3c.rml after all?  It ends up not
> using separate subprocesses for each test?

It runs all tests twice, once with and once without the subprocess version.

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Re: [Zope-dev] One z3c.rml test failure on Linux -- bug in ReportLab?

2010-12-21 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:46:55PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Monday, December 20, 2010, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with z3c.rml nor with ReportLab's form code, so I'd
> > appreciate if people who wrote the test could help with the smaller
> > reproducible example.
> 
> That's not a bug, but a well-known issue with ReportLab. Once you generated 
> one document with ReportLab, you are not guaranteed a clean state, since 
> ReportLab uses module-global variables to keep track of state.

That's ouch-y.  I'm relying on the ability to produce multiple documents
per process, and I've a system that does that in production.  My
documents do not use forms, though.

Incidentally, I'm almost certain this bug was introduced into reportlab
code in January 2010, by applying this patch:
http://two.pairlist.net/pipermail/reportlab-users/2010-January/009216.html

__InternalName__ is assigned only for objects that have __PDFObject__
set to True, and GLOBALRESOURCES is an instance of PDFPattern which
didn't have that attribute earlier.

I still intend to bring this up on the reportlab mailing list.

> This is the 
> reason, Roger implemented running the renderer in a sub-process and all the 
> tests are run twice.

So you're saying this is a bug in z3c.rml after all?  It ends up not
using separate subprocesses for each test?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-12-22 00:22, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Tres Seaver wrote:
>> I didn't look at the RML failures.  I'm not even sure we should be
>> running them, at least not every night, as I doubt the package is at all
>> widely used (but I'm willing to be shouted down ;).
>
> I am frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads since
> July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that are not
> part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree.

If only those bugreports would get some response :)

Wichert.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Thanks for giving it a shot Christian!  I always read the meeting notes,
if I didn't participate.

- C

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 19:46 +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> during my holidays I evaluated where I spend my time. I feel that the 
> weekly IRC meetings in their current form do not foster more development 
> or get stuff done on the maintenance side of things but keep rather 
> reiterating on the things we feel we should do.
> 
> As they keep adding more maintenance burden on me (preparation and 
> post-mortem) without having much effect (it seemed there was some steam 
> initially but that dropped substantially) I'll seek ways to contribute 
> my time more efficiently.
> 
> I had a very enjoyable face to face meeting with Hanno Schlichting and 
> Veit Schiele (of DZUG fame) today in which we figured that we'd like to 
> support creative action within the ZTK next year. We'd like to do so by 
> organizing a sprint each quarter over here in Germany. We're sketching 
> out details on how we want organization to work out over the next weeks 
> so that we find the topics that are interesting to people.
> 
> Our current goal is to get together during March for 3 days, probably in 
> Berlin.
> 
> Christian
> 


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[Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

during my holidays I evaluated where I spend my time. I feel that the 
weekly IRC meetings in their current form do not foster more development 
or get stuff done on the maintenance side of things but keep rather 
reiterating on the things we feel we should do.

As they keep adding more maintenance burden on me (preparation and 
post-mortem) without having much effect (it seemed there was some steam 
initially but that dropped substantially) I'll seek ways to contribute 
my time more efficiently.

I had a very enjoyable face to face meeting with Hanno Schlichting and 
Veit Schiele (of DZUG fame) today in which we figured that we'd like to 
support creative action within the ZTK next year. We'd like to do so by 
organizing a sprint each quarter over here in Germany. We're sketching 
out details on how we want organization to work out over the next weeks 
so that we find the topics that are interesting to people.

Our current goal is to get together during March for 3 days, probably in 
Berlin.

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Tres Seaver wrote:
> I didn't look at the RML failures.  I'm not even sure we should be
> running them, at least not every night, as I doubt the package is at all
> widely used (but I'm willing to be shouted down ;).

I am frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads since 
July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that are not 
part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Tres Seaver
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Yay, getting closer to green.  Marius, thank you very much for your
efforts over the past week!


> Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64
> From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
> Date: Mon Dec 20 15:30:02 EST 2010
> URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027135.html

This one looks like a build failure::

- - %< -
'bin\test-ztk.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
- - %< -


> Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32
> From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
> Date: Mon Dec 20 15:58:39 EST 2010
> URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027139.html

The failure here looks like it would be easier to diagnose if we
released a zope.testing 3.9.6, to include Marius' fix adding NDIFF
support to the (goofy) doctest.

The error is in layer teardown, deep inside the subprocess module.  I'm
tempted to bump the code to skip this test altogether under Python 2.4.

BTW, why are we running the tests every night against the released eggs
of ZTK 1.0, rather than against the corresponding SVN branches?


> Subject: FAILED : winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32
> From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
> Date: Mon Dec 20 23:05:58 EST 2010
> URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027166.html
> 
> Subject: FAILED : winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32
> From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
> Date: Mon Dec 20 23:55:02 EST 2010
> URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027167.html

I didn't look at the RML failures.  I'm not even sure we should be
running them, at least not every night, as I doubt the package is at all
widely used (but I'm willing to be shouted down ;).


Tres.
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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Mon Dec 20 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Tue Dec 21 12:00:00 2010 UTC.
There were 44 messages: 8 from Zope Tests, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 21 from 
buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 11 from ccomb at free.fr.


Test failures
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Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:30:02 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027135.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:58:39 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027139.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 23:05:58 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027166.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 23:55:02 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027167.html


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:19:11 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027134.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:28:40 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027137.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:38:40 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027136.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 15:48:07 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027138.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:07:21 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027140.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:15:40 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027141.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:24:05 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027142.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:35:25 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027143.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:46:51 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027144.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 16:58:05 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027145.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 17:09:47 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027146.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 17:21:11 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027147.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 18:16:58 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027148.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 19:13:10 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027149.html

Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Dec 20 19:49:46 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027150.html

Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Dec 20 19:50:20 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027151.html

Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Dec 20 19:50:33 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027152.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 20:08:48 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027153.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 21:04:18 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027154.html

Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux
From: buildbot at pov.lt
Date: Mon Dec 20 21:13:32 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-December/027155.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Mon Dec 20 21:59:51 EST 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010