[Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Zope 2 and Plone Zope 2 and Plone are obviously related, so the future of one of the two influences the other one. The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch (2.12) still requires python2.4. I don't seem to have gotten this. Weird. Incorrect: Zope 2.12 is supported only on Python 2.5 / 2.6. The INSTALL.rst[1] file says: Prerequisites - System requirements when building from source - A supported version of Python, including the development support if installed from system-level packages. Supported versions include: * 2.5.x, (x = 4) * 2.6.x That's great news! I'd missed this. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
* 2009-06-24 11:39, Jim Fulton wrote: The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch (2.12) still requires python2.4. My fault, I meant 2.11 (which is the current stable). -- Fabio Tranchitella http://www.kobold.it Free Software Developer and Consultant http://www.tranchitella.it _ 1024D/7F961564, fpr 5465 6E69 E559 6466 BF3D 9F01 2BF8 EE2B 7F96 1564 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2009-06-24 11:39, Jim Fulton wrote: The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch (2.12) still requires python2.4. My fault, I meant 2.11 (which is the current stable). So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
* 2009-06-24 12:26, Jim Fulton wrote: So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? The problem is not Zope by itself but Plone, which still needs Zope 2.10, which in turn requires python 2.4. It seems that a new major release of Plone will happen at the end of the year, which is already too late for Ubuntu Karmic (next stable release). -- Fabio Tranchitella http://www.kobold.it Free Software Developer and Consultant http://www.tranchitella.it _ 1024D/7F961564, fpr 5465 6E69 E559 6466 BF3D 9F01 2BF8 EE2B 7F96 1564 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On 24.06.09 12:29, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2009-06-24 12:26, Jim Fulton wrote: So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? The problem is not Zope by itself but Plone, which still needs Zope 2.10, which in turn requires python 2.4. It seems that a new major release of Plone will happen at the end of the year, which is already too late for Ubuntu Karmic (next stable release). We had the very same discussion with the guys from Canonical at some months ago at PyCon. My personal opionion: the Zope developers don't care much about release dates (that the it's done when it is done attitiude - good or bad...). Therefore we can not and won't care much about the release dates and requirements of each single distribution. The other question: are Plone packages included with some Linux distribution important for attracting people to Plone. My opionion: no. It's nice having OFTB support for Plone and Zope on the distros but the Zope and Plone packages raised more problems for serious Zope/Plone users in the past than they actually solved. Serious installations usually install their own Python, Zope Plone from the sources or using zc.buildout nowadays (this approach is supported by the Zope and Plone developers). Andreas begin:vcard fn:Andreas Jung n:Jung;Andreas org:ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG adr;quoted-printable:;;Charlottenstr. 37/1;T=C3=BCbingen;;72070;Germany email;internet:i...@zopyx.com title:CEO tel;work:+49-7071-793376 tel;fax:+49-7071-7936840 tel;home:+49-7071-793257 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.zopyx.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
