Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2001-01-05 Thread Chris Withers
Brian Lloyd wrote: > > Are you talking about 'ProtocolAccessibility'? It's still > there (though Jim has done some rearranging of things there > lately)... http://www.zope.org//Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ProtocolAccessibility So it is :-) Comments are still welcome... Chris

RE: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2001-01-04 Thread Brian Lloyd
> > > I did have a proposal for just this on dev.zope.org, but I see someone > has deleted it :-( > > cheers, > > Chris Are you talking about 'ProtocolAccessibility'? It's still there (though Jim has done some rearranging of things there lately)... Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Softw

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2001-01-03 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: > >There are objects, that should be usable by Anonymous >inside DTML but should not be viewable over the >web (as they will only confuse). >All page components (such as "standard_html_header/footer") >fall into this category. Totally agree... this has bu

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2001-01-03 Thread Chris Withers
Steve Alexander wrote: > > On a related issue, what about other dtml snippets that people generally > don't want as web accessible, such as standard_html_header ? > > On my pie-in-the-sky zope wishlist: I did have a proposal for just this on dev.zope.org, but I see someone has deleted it :-(

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2001-01-03 Thread Chris Withers
Brian Lloyd wrote: > > FWIW, I agree that adding access method into the security > mix would add a great deal of complexity. It may turn out > to be necessary in the future, but I'm not yet convinced > of that. Well, it's come up quite a few tiems, would it really be that bad? :-S cheers, Chri

RE: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-21 Thread Toby Dickenson
> -Original Message- > From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Toby Dickenson writes: > > > ... protocol specific access rights ... > > Please No. > > > > Zope security is complex enough without having to worry about > > different security settings depending on how a method

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-20 Thread Erik Enge
[Dieter Maurer] | There are objects, that should be usable by Anonymous inside DTML | but should not be viewable over the web (as they will only confuse). | All page components (such as "standard_html_header/footer") fall | into this category. Do you have any idea of how this could be done nicel

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-20 Thread Dieter Maurer
Toby Dickenson writes: > > ... protocol specific access rights ... > Please No. > > Zope security is complex enough without having to worry about > different security settings depending on how a method is accessed. > (And we should have a lower tolerance for complexity when it applies > to

RE: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
> >This is something that has come up before. I propose > >that the real problem here is that 'objectIds' should > >not be web-traversable. > > > >I have, in fact, proposed this before. It caused a bit > >of grumbling among people using xml-rpc, who were using > >objectIds remotely, so we neve

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-20 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:11:51 -0500, "Brian Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is something that has come up before. I propose >that the real problem here is that 'objectIds' should >not be web-traversable. > >I have, in fact, proposed this before. It caused a bit >of grumbling among peop

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Dieter Maurer wrote: > Steve Alexander writes: > > On my pie-in-the-sky zope wishlist: > > > > What I'd like is a new tab for zope objects that allows me to say which > > protocols the object is accessible from, and what to do if not. > > > > For example: > > > >access route

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Dieter Maurer
Steve Alexander writes: > On my pie-in-the-sky zope wishlist: > > What I'd like is a new tab for zope objects that allows me to say which > protocols the object is accessible from, and what to do if not. > > For example: > >access route accessible?action > >

[Zope-dev] Re: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Morten W. Petersen
[Brian Lloyd] | This comes up often enough that I'm inclined to do | something about it for 2.3. I propose that objectIds | (and objectValues) will not be directly accessible | via the Web in 2.3. For xml-rpc applications, it should | be a simple enough task to create a Python Script (or | eve

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Casey Duncan
Paul Erickson wrote: > > If it is an issue for XML-RPC users, maybe there should be a > "Traversable" permission on Folder objects that could default to not > allowing web-traversal, but allowing it to be enabled if desired. > > Would this affect FTP access to folders? > > -Paul > I agree. Tha

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Paul Erickson
If it is an issue for XML-RPC users, maybe there should be a "Traversable" permission on Folder objects that could default to not allowing web-traversal, but allowing it to be enabled if desired. Would this affect FTP access to folders? -Paul Brian Lloyd wrote: > > This is something that has

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Brad Clements
On 18 Dec 2000, at 14:11, Brian Lloyd wrote: > This comes up often enough that I'm inclined to do > something about it for 2.3. I propose that objectIds > (and objectValues) will not be directly accessible > via the Web in 2.3. For xml-rpc applications, it should > be a simple enough task to cr

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Brian Lloyd wrote: > > This comes up often enough that I'm inclined to do > something about it for 2.3. I propose that objectIds > (and objectValues) will not be directly accessible > via the Web in 2.3. For xml-rpc applications, it should > be a simple enough task to create a Python Script (o

[Zope-dev] RE: objectIds accessiblilty & and a proposal

2000-12-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
> > If you type in http://www.zope.org/Members/objectIds you get a list of > > all Members. Although it is a useful feature.. ;) .. I can't really > > see why objectIds should be available for everyone, at any given time. > > > > Is this a bug or a feature? > I was able to do this as anonymous