RE: [Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6

2002-08-21 Thread sean . upton

In theory (and as a Debian user), I like the idea of support for as
distro-neutral of a linux distribution as possible; on the other hand,
supporting RedHat 7.2 is a must for Zope accessability to new developers
(since there are a lot of RedHat 7.2 systems out there).  Is Python 2.1
under woody really compiled with LFS support?  That would be great, but
still likely means that your best bet is to build Zope from source, or just
use the Zope packages in Debian Main.

Anyway, Debian 3.0 uses glibc 2.2 (I'm not sure if this is a big deal???).  

A thought: rather than require yet another Zope binary distribution to be
packaged for Debian by Zope Corp (esp. Since Zope packages are fairly decent
in Debian), the Zope.org download page might want to contain a link to:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zopesearchon
=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all
for Debian users, just like it mentions the contributed RPMs.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Nagarjuna G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6


On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Matthew T. Kromer wrote:
 Zope is currently released in three binary formats:
 
Windows - i386
 
 Solaris 2.6 - SPARC
 
 Linux RH 5.2 - i386
 
 All binary releases come with python 2.1.3, built without large file 
 support.
 
 We are proposing to change the binary distributions to newer releases, 
 at least on the Solaris and Linux platforms.  
 
 The new Solaris binary would be Solaris 2.8.
 
 The new Linux binary would be RedHat 7.2 based (i.e. glibc 2.1).
 
 It is very likely that the supplied Pythons would be built with large 
 file support *enabled* for these platform, unless some unforseen 
 compatibility issue arose.

Is it difficult to make the GNU/Linux binary distro independent?  All
the binaries that I have been using from the Zope site work to the
best of my knowledge on distros.  Why mention Redhat specailly?  I
work on Debian Woody 3.0, and the python 2.1 is compiled with large file
system support.

Nagarjuna

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RE: [Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6

2002-08-21 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida


I don't see why the fuss. Compiling Python/Zope against RedHat 7.2
doesn't keep it from running under Debian. Even though Debian 3.0 runs
glibc 2.2, a glibc2.1 binary should be able to run without problems.
Specially since there isn't any C++ code in Zope, which is usually the
major source of incompatibilities between different library versions.
Glibc is reasonably upward compatible AFAIK.

Mentioning RedHat 7.2 as the building platform is just a short way of
saying that the Zope binary will expect to find libc version X, libm
version Y, libpthread version Z, etc, etc. If you have these or better
versions of your basic libraries, you don't have to worry what distro
you're running.

Cheers, Leo

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 11:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In theory (and as a Debian user), I like the idea of support for as
 distro-neutral of a linux distribution as possible; on the other hand,
 supporting RedHat 7.2 is a must for Zope accessability to new developers
 (since there are a lot of RedHat 7.2 systems out there).  Is Python 2.1
 under woody really compiled with LFS support?  That would be great, but
 still likely means that your best bet is to build Zope from source, or just
 use the Zope packages in Debian Main.
 
 Anyway, Debian 3.0 uses glibc 2.2 (I'm not sure if this is a big deal???).  
 
 A thought: rather than require yet another Zope binary distribution to be
 packaged for Debian by Zope Corp (esp. Since Zope packages are fairly decent
 in Debian), the Zope.org download page might want to contain a link to:
 http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zopesearchon
 =namessubword=1version=allrelease=all
 for Debian users, just like it mentions the contributed RPMs.
 
 Sean
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nagarjuna G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Matthew T. Kromer wrote:
  Zope is currently released in three binary formats:
  
 Windows - i386
  
  Solaris 2.6 - SPARC
  
  Linux RH 5.2 - i386
  
  All binary releases come with python 2.1.3, built without large file 
  support.
  
  We are proposing to change the binary distributions to newer releases, 
  at least on the Solaris and Linux platforms.  
  
  The new Solaris binary would be Solaris 2.8.
  
  The new Linux binary would be RedHat 7.2 based (i.e. glibc 2.1).
  
  It is very likely that the supplied Pythons would be built with large 
  file support *enabled* for these platform, unless some unforseen 
  compatibility issue arose.
 
 Is it difficult to make the GNU/Linux binary distro independent?  All
 the binaries that I have been using from the Zope site work to the
 best of my knowledge on distros.  Why mention Redhat specailly?  I
 work on Debian Woody 3.0, and the python 2.1 is compiled with large file
 system support.
 
 Nagarjuna
 
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[Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6

2002-08-20 Thread Matthew T. Kromer

Zope is currently released in three binary formats:

Windows - i386

 Solaris 2.6 - SPARC

 Linux RH 5.2 - i386

All binary releases come with python 2.1.3, built without large file 
support.

We are proposing to change the binary distributions to newer releases, 
at least on the Solaris and Linux platforms.  

The new Solaris binary would be Solaris 2.8.

The new Linux binary would be RedHat 7.2 based (i.e. glibc 2.1).

It is very likely that the supplied Pythons would be built with large 
file support *enabled* for these platform, unless some unforseen 
compatibility issue arose.

If there are requirements for keeping the binary distributions based on 
the older software, we need to understand these requirements.  Please 
follow up with this thread on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list if you wish to 
participate.

-- 
Matt Kromer
Zope Corporation  http://www.zope.com/ 



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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Binary Release Changes for Zope 2.6

2002-08-20 Thread Nagarjuna G.

On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:57:14AM -0400, Matthew T. Kromer wrote:
 Zope is currently released in three binary formats:
 
Windows - i386
 
 Solaris 2.6 - SPARC
 
 Linux RH 5.2 - i386
 
 All binary releases come with python 2.1.3, built without large file 
 support.
 
 We are proposing to change the binary distributions to newer releases, 
 at least on the Solaris and Linux platforms.  
 
 The new Solaris binary would be Solaris 2.8.
 
 The new Linux binary would be RedHat 7.2 based (i.e. glibc 2.1).
 
 It is very likely that the supplied Pythons would be built with large 
 file support *enabled* for these platform, unless some unforseen 
 compatibility issue arose.

Is it difficult to make the GNU/Linux binary distro independent?  All
the binaries that I have been using from the Zope site work to the
best of my knowledge on distros.  Why mention Redhat specailly?  I
work on Debian Woody 3.0, and the python 2.1 is compiled with large file
system support.

Nagarjuna

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