Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting TODAY at 15:00 UTC
Hi, so, here's this week's summary: We talked a bit about the summary goals. I will (have to) do some nagging to get everyone who signed up to fill in his details and timeframe. If anyone feels nagged already, you can go straight here: http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/ZopeSummit2010Summary Some of us already put in our time frames and some more detailed explanations. Also, we talked about the bug days. This time we seem to have quite low interest, maybe the week is bad or so... However, we'd like to point out (or remind) that you don't have to schedule your whole day for participating with a bug day: spending an hour or so to fix some bug makes a much larger difference than not being able to join for a whole day. ;) In addition to that, we'd like to encourage everyone to pick some bugs they'd like to work on *before* the bug day. Especially if you pick bugs that need some discussion/explanation it will help you actually achieve something on the bug day if you understand what's going on and what needs to be done - that's going to be much more satisfying. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting TODAY at 15:00 UTC
Gah. Editing old posts ... :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting TODAY at 15:00 UTC
Hello Christian, I guess pushing a lot harder on goals... 'cause nothing seems to happen. Unless I miss something. Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 1:22:31 PM, you wrote: CT Gah. Editing old posts ... :) -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:agros...@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: That which we call sin in others is experiment for us. - Ralph Waldo Emerson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Am 31.08.2010, 10:23 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: - Supporting Python 2.7 - Abandoned projects - Windows compiler licenses Hi all, sorry for the delay. The minutes are now up at http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100831.html What about today? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Hi, On 08/31/2010 10:32 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront. Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Am 31.08.2010, 10:34 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over. Sure, if you need me to. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
On 8/31/10 10:32 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront. - Supporting Python 2.7 I thought the current plan is to try to support Python 2.7 for ZTK 1.1 (which will then be Python 2.5 - 2.7). Currently 1.0 beta is still blocked on test issues. Before we don't get these tests fixed, there is no point in branching off the ZTK trunk to a 1.0 branch and allowing feature development to happen. If we cannot get the tests fixed on the current list of supported systems, adding whole new ZTK version set will only make matters much worse. It does bring up an interesting question: if not all supported systems can be supported, should support for some systems be dropped? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine ;-) and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect. T On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 8/31/10 10:32 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront. - Supporting Python 2.7 I thought the current plan is to try to support Python 2.7 for ZTK 1.1 (which will then be Python 2.5 - 2.7). Currently 1.0 beta is still blocked on test issues. Before we don't get these tests fixed, there is no point in branching off the ZTK trunk to a 1.0 branch and allowing feature development to happen. If we cannot get the tests fixed on the current list of supported systems, adding whole new ZTK version set will only make matters much worse. It does bring up an interesting question: if not all supported systems can be supported, should support for some systems be dropped? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Am 31.08.2010, 11:31 Uhr, schrieb Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com: Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect. Hi Tim, thanks to Hanno's clarifications on IRC last week let me point out that we are talking about the roadmap for the ZTK 1.1. Support for Python 2.4 *will* be dropped this year. Python 2.5 is likely to survive longer not least because it is the supported version on the current version of Debian, although it's looking likely that there will be a new release (Debian 6.0 aka Squeeze) in the not too distant future. And I guess that GAE is still tied to 2.5? Beyond that, however, I think it's only reasonable to start looking at the migration towards a codebase that runs on Python 3.x and that may, at some point, mandate dropping support for Python 2.5. This especially in light of the fact that Python 2.5 itself is in maintenance mode. At the moment I think any incomaptabilities are related to tests and implements. However, this is all in the future and subject, no doubt, to review. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Hoffman wrote: Please don't drop 2.5 support yet. I use zope.component, zope.interface, zope.event, zope.lifecyclevent on all my projects on appengine ;-) and that won't be moving from 2.5 for a while I suspect. You should be planning to stick with the ZTK 1.0 release line, then, as it is known to support your platform. The 1.1 versions may drop support for Python 2.5, and definitely will drop support for 2.4; those versions will be supported by ZTK 1.0. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkx9V6gACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5w+gCfVFMrnoIjJYeWJ3gOcTfqyXXM TnUAnA8+82M81z5i4+CBBTpMK+s2GPoF =xBEk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Hi, looks like my announcement was too late already. Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. See you on the bug day tomorrow, or next week at the weekly meeting! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Hi. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. Hhm, interesting. Are you or me hallucinating? I definitely wasn't at the zope-dev meeting. There was a ZTK release team meeting before, though. Maybe you talked to J-W or ccomb. See you on the bug day tomorrow, or next week at the weekly meeting! /me sadly won't make it. I have a customer visiting the rest of the week. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Hi. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. Hhm, interesting. Are you or me hallucinating? I definitely wasn't at the zope-dev meeting. There was a ZTK release team meeting before, though. Maybe you talked to J-W or ccomb. As I can see in this log, he talked to J-W and got the info :) http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-08-17.log.html#t2010-08-17T18:04:44 -- Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
On 08/18/2010 09:36 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. Hhm, interesting. Are you or me hallucinating? I definitely wasn't at the zope-dev meeting. There was a ZTK release team meeting before, though. Maybe you talked to J-W or ccomb. Hallucination. It was J-W. (Sorry, J-W!) See you on the bug day tomorrow, or next week at the weekly meeting! /me sadly won't make it. I have a customer visiting the rest of the week. Ouh! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
Am 18.08.2010, 08:36 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: looks like my announcement was too late already. It was too late for me to say I couldn't make it. Greetings from the Oil Slick Sprint in Duck, NC! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC, Agenda attached
Am 01.06.2010, 16:51 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: I won't be able to moderate the session today and I had a chat with Charlie earlier today (and tried poking him a few minutes ago) where I tried to signal this and whether he can take over. I haven't received a reply, so I'm unsure. Well, I did make it. It was a fairly brief meeting, here's the summary. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 zope-dev-20100601.rst Description: Binary data ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC, Agenda attached
On 06/02/2010 02:55 PM, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 01.06.2010, 16:51 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: I won't be able to moderate the session today and I had a chat with Charlie earlier today (and tried poking him a few minutes ago) where I tried to signal this and whether he can take over. I haven't received a reply, so I'm unsure. Well, I did make it. It was a fairly brief meeting, here's the summary. Thanks! -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC, Agenda attached
On 06/01/2010 03:11 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, an here's today's agenda. I'd like to talk about Tres' suggestion to consolidate floating documentation into Sphinx (docs.zope.org?) and how we decide when to make a release of a package. The meeting is on IRC (irc://freenode/#zope) of course ... -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC, Agenda attached
Hi, On 06/01/2010 03:13 PM, Christian Theune wrote: On 06/01/2010 03:11 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, an here's today's agenda. I'd like to talk about Tres' suggestion to consolidate floating documentation into Sphinx (docs.zope.org?) and how we decide when to make a release of a package. The meeting is on IRC (irc://freenode/#zope) of course ... I won't be able to moderate the session today and I had a chat with Charlie earlier today (and tried poking him a few minutes ago) where I tried to signal this and whether he can take over. I haven't received a reply, so I'm unsure. Is anyone else able to take over today? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
