Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-27 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:20:27PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: Timothy Selivanow wrote at 2008-3-25 17:12 -0700: ... Now when I say rip out, I don't mean repackage (make a sub RPM), I mean remove from the RPM that I am making. I don't want to provide a new Docutils. That Zope ships with

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. März 2008 20:42:50 +0200 Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:20:27PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: Timothy Selivanow wrote at 2008-3-25 17:12 -0700: ... Now when I say rip out, I don't mean repackage (make a sub RPM), I mean remove from the RPM that

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 01:12 , Timothy Selivanow wrote: I would rather have a package that upstream approves of and participates in, than blindly create it in a silo not caring. It never turns out well in the long run with the latter. You may be fighting windmills here. Previous attempts at

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Timothy Selivanow wrote at 2008-3-25 17:12 -0700: ... Now when I say rip out, I don't mean repackage (make a sub RPM), I mean remove from the RPM that I am making. I don't want to provide a new Docutils. That Zope ships with its own Docutils comes from the fact that the standard one has a big

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-25 Thread Timothy Selivanow
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 08:05 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: In general we want to get rid of 3rd-party packages we don't want to maintain on our own. That's perfectly sane :) There is no sustainable reason to lug around some other project's code in yours in the Open Source world. Right now we

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. März 2008 13:39:08 -0700 Timothy Selivanow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 20:09 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, speaking as the Zope 2 release manager: I am strongly opposed against splitting Zope yourself into different packages and modules. With Zope 2 depending

[Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Timothy Selivanow
As the subject implies, I'm working on a package for Fedora. I've come across some missing dependencies, and some that are different versions. Because of the way that Python packages are put together (shared library environment), I'm trying to strip out everything that is not Zope specific (e.g.

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, speaking as the Zope 2 release manager: I am strongly opposed against splitting Zope yourself into different packages and modules. With Zope 2 depending from various Zope 3 packages (roughly 80-90) we have already the situation to keep track which packages belong together. This will

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Timothy Selivanow
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 20:09 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, speaking as the Zope 2 release manager: I am strongly opposed against splitting Zope yourself into different packages and modules. With Zope 2 depending from various Zope 3 packages (roughly 80-90) we have already the situation to

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Marius Gedminas
Disclaimer: my knowledge is not complete, and my track record of writing emails late at night is not very good. Take this with a big grain of salt. On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57:31AM -0700, Timothy Selivanow wrote: As the subject implies, I'm working on a package for Fedora. I've come across