[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure for

2007-11-01 Thread Martijn Faassen

Hanno Schlichting wrote:

Log message for revision 81348:
  Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure for
  efficient retrieval of already registered utilities. This avoids looping over
  all utilities when registering a new one.


You are changing what looks like persistent datastructures. Are you sure 
this doesn't introduce backwards compatibility issues?


I also question naming the next release 3.4.1. This is not a bugfix. I 
think it should come in as 3.5.


Regards,

Martijn
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[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure for

2007-11-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Log message for revision 81348:
   Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure
 for
   efficient retrieval of already registered utilities. This avoids
 looping over
   all utilities when registering a new one.
 
 You are changing what looks like persistent datastructures. Are you sure
 this doesn't introduce backwards compatibility issues?

Sorry, you are right. I changed it to only optimize non-persistent
registries and fall back on the algorithm which doesn't need an
optimized new data structure as before.

 I also question naming the next release 3.4.1. This is not a bugfix. I
 think it should come in as 3.5.

I'm not sure what criteria determine if something is a feature change
and what is not, so I changed the next version on trunk to 3.5.

Hanno

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[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure for

2007-11-01 Thread Martijn Faassen

Hanno Schlichting wrote:

Martijn Faassen wrote:

Hanno Schlichting wrote:

Log message for revision 81348:
  Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure
for
  efficient retrieval of already registered utilities. This avoids
looping over
  all utilities when registering a new one.

You are changing what looks like persistent datastructures. Are you sure
this doesn't introduce backwards compatibility issues?


Sorry, you are right. I changed it to only optimize non-persistent
registries and fall back on the algorithm which doesn't need an
optimized new data structure as before.


Does it still install the optimized datastructure if you create a new 
persistent registry?



I also question naming the next release 3.4.1. This is not a bugfix. I
think it should come in as 3.5.


I'm not sure what criteria determine if something is a feature change
and what is not, so I changed the next version on trunk to 3.5.


I think the criteria should be very simple: if it's a bugfix, you can 
release a bugfix release. If it's anything else, make it a feature 
release. Optimization is a feature, not a bugfix.


The combination here would've been particularly bad: people innocently 
try version 3.4.1 and suddenly find their ZODB is broken. :)


Note that I'm actually quite excited to see optimization work - this is 
why I paid particular attention to your checkin at all. Thanks for 
looking into this stuff!


Regards,

Martijn

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[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure for

2007-11-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Log message for revision 81348:
   Optimized un/registerUtility via storing an optimized data structure
 for
   efficient retrieval of already registered utilities. This avoids
 looping over
   all utilities when registering a new one.
 You are changing what looks like persistent datastructures. Are you sure
 this doesn't introduce backwards compatibility issues?

 Sorry, you are right. I changed it to only optimize non-persistent
 registries and fall back on the algorithm which doesn't need an
 optimized new data structure as before.
 
 Does it still install the optimized datastructure if you create a new
 persistent registry?

No, it doesn't do that at all anymore. The only thing that is speed up
is registering and unregistering utilities which shouldn't happen for
persistent registries all that often.

In a standard Plone site you have about 1800 global utilities and
registering those at Zope startup time has been quite slow, as the
former algorithm looped through all already registered utilities when
adding a new one.

 I also question naming the next release 3.4.1. This is not a bugfix. I
 think it should come in as 3.5.

 I'm not sure what criteria determine if something is a feature change
 and what is not, so I changed the next version on trunk to 3.5.
 
 I think the criteria should be very simple: if it's a bugfix, you can
 release a bugfix release. If it's anything else, make it a feature
 release. Optimization is a feature, not a bugfix.
 
 The combination here would've been particularly bad: people innocently
 try version 3.4.1 and suddenly find their ZODB is broken. :)
 
 Note that I'm actually quite excited to see optimization work - this is
 why I paid particular attention to your checkin at all. Thanks for
 looking into this stuff!

We are sitting here in Copenhagen on the Plone performance sprint and
found some more interesting pieces... stay tuned ;)

Hanno

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