Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-11 Thread Fred Drake
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Tres Seaver  wrote:
> Given that ZODB3 and zope.app.container are still non-optional
> dependencies of the package, I can't see any reason not to restore those
> base classes.

I mentioned it on IRC, but wanted to mention here as well for completeness:

zope.pluggableauth 1.0.3 is out with the proposed change.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-10 Thread Christophe Combelles
Le 06/07/2010 16:38, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman a écrit :
> On 6/30/10 21:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>> To use the ZTK release, you can use:
>>
>> [buildout]
>> extends =
>>   http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/ztk-versions.cfg
>>   http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/zopeapp-versions.cfg
>>
>> This first release focuses on getting something out and defining the
>> actual technical outcome of a release. Currently the release outcome
>> is tailored to the needs of the three frameworks.
>
> Grok's groktoolkit now extends from this 1.0a1 release. After today's
> zc.catlog bugfix release, Grok is using the ZTK now without any issues.

Same thing for BlueBream: the next version 1.0b3 will be using the ZTK 1.0a2. 
And There is no bbkit anymore. Eveything is in the bluebream package.

Christophe

>
> Thanks Hanno!
>
> regards, jw
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Howitz
Am 30.06.2010 um 21:47 schrieb Hanno Schlichting:
> Hi.
> 
> On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
> happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.
> 
> You can read more about the release at
> http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/releases/overview-1.0a1.html. The
> first ZTK release supports all of Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6.
> 
> To use the ZTK release, you can use:
> 
> [buildout]
> extends =
>http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/ztk-versions.cfg
>http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/zopeapp-versions.cfg

Tried it with a project of mine.

It works nearly completely fine.
I only saw some a test breaking because between zope.testbrowser 3.6.0a2 and 
3.9.0 behavior of browser.goBack() seems to have changed. It does now a reload 
of the previous page (causing form re-submit in my test).
But maybe this is caused by the new mechanize 0.2.x version.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> On 07/06/2010 05:00 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> Fred Drake wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting  
>>> wrote:
 On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
 happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.
>>> I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible 
>>> classes:
>>>
>>>  https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html
>>>
>>> Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced
>>> by zope.pluggableauth.plugins.session.SessionCredentialsPlugin?
>> Given that ZODB3 and zope.app.container are still non-optional
>> dependencies of the package, I can't see any reason not to restore those
>> base classes.
> 
> zope.pluggableauth doesn't seem to depend on zope.app.container? Or did 
> you mean zope.container? I think you meant the latter. I have no 
> objection to adding these back in (zope.container.contained.Contained, 
> that is), as it doesn't change the dependency.

Fred was commenting on a change to zope.app.authentication, actually,
which has dependencies on ZODB3 and zope.app.container.  Sorry for any
confusion.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Fred Drake  wrote:
> I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible 
> classes:
>
>    https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html
>
> Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced
> by zope.pluggableauth.plugins.session.SessionCredentialsPlugin?

Apparently not :)

But your proposal sounded good to me. Just go ahead.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 07/06/2010 05:00 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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> Fred Drake wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting  wrote:
>>> On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
>>> happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.
>>
>> I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible 
>> classes:
>>
>>  https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html
>>
>> Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced
>> by zope.pluggableauth.plugins.session.SessionCredentialsPlugin?
>
> Given that ZODB3 and zope.app.container are still non-optional
> dependencies of the package, I can't see any reason not to restore those
> base classes.

zope.pluggableauth doesn't seem to depend on zope.app.container? Or did 
you mean zope.container? I think you meant the latter. I have no 
objection to adding these back in (zope.container.contained.Contained, 
that is), as it doesn't change the dependency.

Regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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Fred Drake wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting  wrote:
>> On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
>> happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.
> 
> I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible 
> classes:
> 
> https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html
> 
> Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced
> by zope.pluggableauth.plugins.session.SessionCredentialsPlugin?

Given that ZODB3 and zope.app.container are still non-optional
dependencies of the package, I can't see any reason not to restore those
base classes.

Note that I dont use zope.{,app.}pluggableauthservice, and so have no
skin in that particular game.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting  wrote:
> On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
> happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.

I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible classes:

https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html

Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced
by zope.pluggableauth.plugins.session.SessionCredentialsPlugin?


  -Fred

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
On 6/30/10 21:47 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> To use the ZTK release, you can use:
>
> [buildout]
> extends =
>  http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/ztk-versions.cfg
>  http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/zopeapp-versions.cfg
>
> This first release focuses on getting something out and defining the
> actual technical outcome of a release. Currently the release outcome
> is tailored to the needs of the three frameworks.

Grok's groktoolkit now extends from this 1.0a1 release. After today's 
zc.catlog bugfix release, Grok is using the ZTK now without any issues.

Thanks Hanno!

regards, jw

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[Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-06-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi.

On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm
happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit.

You can read more about the release at
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/releases/overview-1.0a1.html. The
first ZTK release supports all of Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6.

To use the ZTK release, you can use:

[buildout]
extends =
http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/ztk-versions.cfg
http://download.zope.org/zopetoolkit/index/1.0a1/zopeapp-versions.cfg

This first release focuses on getting something out and defining the
actual technical outcome of a release. Currently the release outcome
is tailored to the needs of the three frameworks.

Now would be a good time for any direct users of the ZTK to speak up
and note anything that would make a ZTK release more useful to them.
In a first dev release created earlier last week we tried to create an
easy_install friendly index for the release. But there have been
questions about the exact contents of the such an index. Furthermore
it isn't clear if such an index would be useful at all to any
potential ZTK consumer. Since the three frameworks only use buildout
and have no use for any other means, we decided to drop the index from
the release procedure until it's usefulness and exact definition have
become clear.

The release team is currently discussing the further roadmap to a 1.0
final release and has some open discussion points to what remains to
be done until we can call it a final release and the process for
further releases and version upgrades. We post our meeting notes at
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/releaseteam/index.html. Feel free to
start discussing with us on this mailing list.

All the best,
Hanno
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