Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-27 Thread Dieter Maurer
Tres Seaver wrote at 2008-4-25 14:49 -0400:
> ...
>I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
>the trunk, along with all the useless decoys which import it.

Is it not a bit late to do this for 2.11?
2.11 is already in the beta phase



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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-26 Thread Tres Seaver
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
>> the trunk, along with all the useless decoys which import it.  THere is
>> no *good* BBB reason to keep them around:  anybody still depending on
>> them in A.G. 2008 needs to switch over, anyway.
>>
>> Objections?  I'll fix the CMF breakage myself, but the Plone folks are
>> going to have to revisit lots of grotty bits.
> 
> Isn't the policy to deprecate in release N and remove in N+2?

They've been deprecated for five years.

> -1 on removing in 2.11
> +1 on deprecating in 2.11

I'll accept the *consensus fidelium* that they should be removed only in
the trunk.

Note that *any( code using the old interfaces (Plone has several places,
I know) is a potential booby trap for other developers:  I lost an hour
or so yesterday trying to figure why the "positioning" UI was displaying
on my IOrderableCOntainer, but the objects appeared not to move:  the
'getObjPositionInParent' kludge was using sniffing for the Z2 version of
the interface, instead of adapting.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-25 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 25. April 2008 21:39:14 +0200 "Stefan H. Holek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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+1 for trunk
-1 for 2.11 branch




Same vote from my side. The 2.11 branch is in beta state and for this 
reason no major changes for 2.11 please.


Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
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> I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
> the trunk, along with all the useless decoys which import it.  THere is
> no *good* BBB reason to keep them around:  anybody still depending on
> them in A.G. 2008 needs to switch over, anyway.
> 
> Objections?  I'll fix the CMF breakage myself, but the Plone folks are
> going to have to revisit lots of grotty bits.

Isn't the policy to deprecate in release N and remove in N+2?

-1 on removing in 2.11
+1 on deprecating in 2.11

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-25 Thread Stefan H. Holek

+1 for trunk
-1 for 2.11 branch

Stefan


On 25. Apr 2008, at 20:49, Tres Seaver wrote:


I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
the trunk, along with all the useless decoys which import it.


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[Zope-dev] Zope2 interfaces delenda est!

2008-04-25 Thread Tres Seaver
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I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
the trunk, along with all the useless decoys which import it.  THere is
no *good* BBB reason to keep them around:  anybody still depending on
them in A.G. 2008 needs to switch over, anyway.

Objections?  I'll fix the CMF breakage myself, but the Plone folks are
going to have to revisit lots of grotty bits.


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