[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | Andrew Milton wrote: > | > +---[ Stephan Richter ]-- > | > | Hello everyone, > | > | > | > | With the development of Zope 3, the Zope developers committed to a new > | > | development pr

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: merge zope-dev and zope3-dev?

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: Only you and Philipp were excited about this. Not sure that constitutes a ringing endorsement. Maybe others will chime in now. I'm +10 too. I'd like to see this happen before the end of the year. Well, given that the majority are +/-0 and with the exception of one or tw

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] merge zope-dev and zope3-dev?

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Withers
Fred Drake wrote: On 2/16/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To be clear: I'm talking _only_ about merging the dev lists, _not_ the user lists. The users lists are still largely independent, but it seems like just about every post to the dev list now has a bearing on both Zope 2 and Zo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-21 Thread Andreas Jung
done --On 21. Februar 2006 08:00:47 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I

[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-02-21 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 3168 Blamelist: andreasjung,hdima,jim,oestermeier,shh,srichter,yuppie BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

[Zope-dev] Deprecating Zope 2 interfaces?

2006-02-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi there, I don't think it will make much sense to keep Zope 2 interfaces around for more than one year from now. In other words, I'm suggesting to deprecate them for Zope 2.10. There are a few places in Zope 2 where they are still used for checks (mostly webdav, OFS, ZCTextIndex). For the deprec

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | > | Handing over ownership to the ZF and therefore having signed a > | Contributor Agreement are the terms of the svn.zope.org repository, just > | like that code is to be made ZPL. > > The license part is irre

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >Andrew Milton wrote: > > >>+---[ Stephan Richter ]-- >>| Hello everyone, >>| >>| With the development of Zope 3, the Zope developers committed to a new >>| development process and higher software quality guidelines. With the >>adoption

[Zope-dev] Re: Deprecating Zope 2 interfaces?

2006-02-21 Thread yuppie
Hi Philipp! Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I don't think it will make much sense to keep Zope 2 interfaces around for more than one year from now. In other words, I'm suggesting to deprecate them for Zope 2.10. +10 But we can't deprecate z2 interfaces as long as Zope 2 itself uses them fo

[Zope-dev] Re: Deprecating Zope 2 interfaces?

2006-02-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
yuppie wrote: >> I don't think it will make much sense to keep Zope 2 interfaces around >> for more than one year from now. In other words, I'm suggesting to >> deprecate them for Zope 2.10. > > > +10 > > But we can't deprecate z2 interfaces as long as Zope 2 itself uses them > for other tasks t

[Zope-dev] Re: Deprecating Zope 2 interfaces?

2006-02-21 Thread yuppie
Hi Philipp! Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: yuppie wrote: There are a few places in Zope 2 where they are still used for checks (mostly webdav, OFS, ZCTextIndex). In detail these are: 1.) WriteLock: Objects are only lockable if their class has WriteLockInterface in its __implements__ list.

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | > | > | * putting a project/package under the wings of the ZF ensures long-term > | > | IP protection > | > > | > How? I think my death + 70 years is further away than the death of ZF, or > in > | > fact the de

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Martin Aspeli wrote: > My immediate concern is about resources: Who will have the time or > incentive to police the common repository and grant certification? It > seems to be a non-trivial process that may end up being quite > time-consuming. It may be perceived a

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 20 February 2006 20:09, Andrew Milton wrote: > So in order to even get your Open Source package LISTED, you have to sign > over the rights of your code to Zope Corp (currently, Zope Foundation > later), and then check it into the svn respository. > > Is this is correct? NO! ABSOLUTELY NO

[Zope-dev] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 20 February 2006 23:16, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > No. The common repository under the wings of ZC/ZF is just *a* > repository that implements the ZSCP. There can be others, for example > the Plone repository, the collective repository (perhaps), etc. Correct. > I had earlier su

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 20 February 2006 23:55, Andrew Milton wrote: Wow, you took the following two quotes out of context. > > The Common Repository is *not* a replacement for other high-level > repositories like Plone's or ECM's. It does not aim at assimilating > everything in the wider Zope community. It is

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 03:57, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Putting stuff into svn.zope.org *does* have advantages: > > * it's easy to feed packages upstream to Zope for a later inclusion into > a Zope distribution. > > * putting a project/package under the wings of the ZF ensures long-te

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
Okay, this discussion is off-topic. I will not respond to it, unless I read about something that relates directly to the proposal. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training __

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 05:13, Andrew Milton wrote: > Why should Mark Shuttleworth who has plenty of means, hand over IP for > (parts of) SchoolTool? I'm sure he has more than enough ways to protect his > IP. Or are you saying that it makes sense for ZF/ZC to protect him? The reason the School

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 05:30, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Anyways, you're welcome to contribute code to the z3base if you'd prefer > a public repository that doesn't require IP handover/sharing. Who knows, > perhaps we'll even manage to implement the ZSCP for some packages there :). Th

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 07:15, Andrew Milton wrote: > The proposal currently requires 3rd party code to be handed over to Zope > Foundation[1] AND checked into the ZF svn repository in order to be > 'certified'. You indicated this was indeed the case. That's not true. Phillip and I both negate

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 08:47, whit wrote: > what hopefully zscp would do is allow a code commons at one end (ala > collective, easy entry, friendly to experimentation) and a fully > certified set of components at the other. > > In between, there would be well defined process for how software m

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 05:38, Stefane Fermigier wrote: > However, I believe like you Philipp, that both initiatives should be > decoupled. The two things are decoupled as section 2 does not require section 3. I decided to leave it in the same document for several reasons: (1) Bandwidth. Dis

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stefane Fermigier
Stephan Richter wrote: >(2) I fear that the ZSCP would be talked to death and stay dead. My experience >in the Open Source world has shown that if something does not have >practicality, it dies unless someone is getting paid. I am certainly not >getting paid for this. By biggest interest here i

[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-02-21 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 3191 Blamelist: frerich,hdima,mkerrin,philikon,srichter,whitmo,yuppie BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot