[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-02-01 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Jan 31 12:00:00 2008 UTC to Fri Feb 1 12:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Feb 1 06:33:08 EST 2008 URL

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 01 February 2008, Chris McDonough wrote: > If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" > It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver > release a name other than Zope. Well, we had to do the classic Zope 3 release at least one more

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread David Pratt
I would say so also. Since z2, z3 both be released in future as eggs, I I expect the only difference to be in kgs that ensures a working set of packages (whether it is zope3, zope2, or for that matter any other project). Any sort of release in the future should only reflect a state of a workin

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Hoffman
On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. > > If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" > It > would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a > name > othe

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Hoffman
On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard that rumored, but there's nothing indicating that in the release > announcement. There are forward looking statements in there: "tarballs... > for > the last 3.4 series and probably for 3.5 as well." I ta

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey,. On Feb 1, 2008 4:09 PM, David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > It might be nice for the marketing of zope to give each set of eggs a > nice name. Just using familiar mozilla names as an illustration, see how > nice zope-thunderbird or zope-firefox look. So do away with the kgs in >

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 01 February 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: > - I think the goal of these releases is less to provide an application   > than to provide a possibly useful collection of some libraries.  This   > is similar to the Python standard library.  Some people see   > significant value in this.  I believe

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: Tom Hoffman wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" It would reduce confusion t

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a name other than Zope. Eg. Current name Proposed name

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
Not responding to anyone in particular: I see there are plenty people with opinions. I would love not to do the Zope 3 releases anymore! I am tired of the endless discussions. Think I am frustrated? Absolutely! All the suggestions made here require more work, more manpower. But there is nobody

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread David Pratt
Hi Martijn. I am familiar with grok and the fun and welcoming community you have created. With the perspective I have suggested, releases are only sets with different names giving meaning to each set for developer groups. As a project, grok is currently pinning eggs but can also provide a kgs

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris McDonough wrote: > Stephan Richter wrote: >> On Friday 01 February 2008, Chris McDonough wrote: >>> If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" >>> It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserv

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 01 February 2008, Chris McDonough wrote: If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a name other than Zope. Well, we had to do the classic Zope 3 relea

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Tom Hoffman wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll take a risk by stating the obvious. If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserver release a na

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris McDonough wrote: > Stephan Richter wrote: >> On Friday 01 February 2008, Chris McDonough wrote: >>> If there will continue to be a release schedule for "Zope 3, the appserver" >>> It would reduce confusion to new users greatly to give the appserv

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Feb 1, 2008 6:11 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/zorg-redux > > This project does not seem to be public. I don't know how it's been setup, but if you want to join I'm sure Martin Aspe

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 01 February 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: > http://www.openplans.org/projects/zorg-redux This project does not seem to be public. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" _

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 01 February 2008, Tres Seaver wrote: > > I typed four more paragraphs full of markety stuff here but deleted them. > >  It's not useful.  If no one else thinks it's a good idea, I'm not going > > to push either. > > I would favor the following for a roadmap going forward: > >  - No more t

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Christophe Combelles
Stephan Richter a écrit : Not responding to anyone in particular: I see there are plenty people with opinions. I would love not to do the Zope 3 releases anymore! I am tired of the endless discussions. Think I am frustrated? Absolutely! All the suggestions made here require more work, more m

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Feb 1, 2008 6:04 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > The transition seems now achieved and the most important thing is to have a > dedicated web site with clear information, so that there are new users, and > new > contributors. When someone goes to the zope.org h

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 11:06:48AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > I typed four more paragraphs full of markety stuff here but deleted them. *cheers* Marius Gedminas -- The clothes have no emperor. -- C.A.R. Hoare, commenting on ADA. signature.asc Description: Digital signatu

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Paul Carduner
On Feb 2, 2008 12:09 AM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > On Feb 1, 2008 6:04 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > The transition seems now achieved and the most important thing is to have a > > dedicated web site with clear information, so that ther

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Feb 1, 2008 8:59 PM, Paul Carduner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I think the website is one of the huge impediments to joining the Zope > community. When you compare zope.org to all the other web framework > websites like django, turbogears, and RoR, it is pretty clear why > people

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I'll take that as STFU ;-) Got it. - C Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 11:06:48AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: I typed four more paragraphs full of markety stuff here but deleted them. *cheers* Marius Gedminas

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Christophe Combelles wrote: Stephan Richter a écrit : Not responding to anyone in particular: I see there are plenty people with opinions. I would love not to do the Zope 3 releases anymore! I am tired of the endless discussions. Think I am frustrated? Absolutely! All the suggestions made h

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread David Pratt
Martin Aspeli wrote: I think you're right on the money. I really have very little idea of how Zope 3 is supposed to be used right now, or what "Zope 3" really is (and no-one fully agrees, as evidenced by other posts in this thread). Having to piece together that information from the mailing li