Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On 24.06.09 12:29, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2009-06-24 12:26, Jim Fulton wrote: > >> So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop >> debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? >> > The problem is not Zope by itself but Plone, which still needs Zope 2.10, > which in turn requires python 2.4. > > It seems that a new major release of Plone will happen at the end of the > year, which is already too late for Ubuntu Karmic (next stable release). > We had the very same discussion with the guys from Canonical at some months ago at PyCon. My personal opionion: the Zope developers don't care much about release dates (that the "it's done when it is done" attitiude - good or bad...). Therefore we can not and won't care much about the release dates and requirements of each single distribution. The other question: are Plone packages included with some Linux distribution important for attracting people to Plone. My opionion: no. It's nice having OFTB support for Plone and Zope on the distros but the Zope and Plone packages raised more problems for serious Zope/Plone users in the past than they actually solved. Serious installations usually install their own Python, Zope & Plone from the sources or using zc.buildout nowadays (this approach is supported by the Zope and Plone developers). Andreas begin:vcard fn:Andreas Jung n:Jung;Andreas org:ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG adr;quoted-printable:;;Charlottenstr. 37/1;T=C3=BCbingen;;72070;Germany email;internet:i...@zopyx.com title:CEO tel;work:+49-7071-793376 tel;fax:+49-7071-7936840 tel;home:+49-7071-793257 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.zopyx.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
* 2009-06-24 12:26, Jim Fulton wrote: > So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop > debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? The problem is not Zope by itself but Plone, which still needs Zope 2.10, which in turn requires python 2.4. It seems that a new major release of Plone will happen at the end of the year, which is already too late for Ubuntu Karmic (next stable release). -- Fabio Tranchitella http://www.kobold.it Free Software Developer and Consultant http://www.tranchitella.it _ 1024D/7F961564, fpr 5465 6E69 E559 6466 BF3D 9F01 2BF8 EE2B 7F96 1564 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2009-06-24 11:39, Jim Fulton wrote: The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch (2.12) still requires python2.4. > > My fault, I meant 2.11 (which is the current stable). So then, how soon would 2.12 need to be released for you to not drop debian support for Zope 2 and Plone? Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
* 2009-06-24 11:39, Jim Fulton wrote: > >> The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch > >> (2.12) still requires python2.4. My fault, I meant 2.11 (which is the current stable). -- Fabio Tranchitella http://www.kobold.it Free Software Developer and Consultant http://www.tranchitella.it _ 1024D/7F961564, fpr 5465 6E69 E559 6466 BF3D 9F01 2BF8 EE2B 7F96 1564 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] 2.5/2.6 support in Zope (Re: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu)
On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > >> Zope 2 and Plone >> >> >> Zope 2 and Plone are obviously related, so the future of one of the >> two >> influences the other one. >> >> The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch >> (2.12) still requires python2.4. I don't seem to have gotten this. Weird. > Incorrect: Zope 2.12 is supported only on Python 2.5 / 2.6. The > INSTALL.rst[1] file says: > > Prerequisites > - > > System requirements when building from source > > - A supported version of Python, including the development support if > installed from system-level packages. Supported versions include: > > * 2.5.x, (x >= 4) > > * 2.6.x That's great news! I'd missed this. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
