Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:01:32 - "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > security. That > > wiki and lessons learned from it were used by us to > create the Interface > > package that now comes with Zope. > > Is there anywhere I can find docs on that package? Yes, in the fishbowl: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Interfaces/FrontPage look at UserDocumentation. -Michel ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
> security. That > wiki and lessons learned from it were used by us to create the Interface > package that now comes with Zope. Is there anywhere I can find docs on that package? > The next phase of the project is to actually document the interfaces of > Zope in Zope itself using the new interface framework. What? All of them? Col > These issues have been one of my tasks for the past few weeks, and in the > next major version of Zope, you will probably see a good bit of internal > interface documentation for high level and low level Zope interfaces. Great, good luck, there's gonna be a lot of people who will appreciate that very much :-) cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > Hi, > > How active/relevant is the interfaces wiki at: > http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces Not active, mostly relevant. > I'm trying to figure out how RoleManagers, local roles, etc work and where the > work of Zope Security is actually done. > I've found ZopeSecurityPolicy.py and bits of stuff in Roles.py, and a few lines > in BaseRequest.py, but the picture is still kinda flakey :-S > > It looks like there was quite a lot of discussion on the Wiki about all this, > but I'm not sure how old it is and whether anything happened from it :-( It's old. The Interfaces Wiki was a first attempt at grasping the API of Zope, not an easy task. Most of the effort in that wiki went into the online help system for "through the web" objects. As a second goal, the wiki was also used to collaborativly develop new interface in Zope, mostly in the areas of traversal and security. That wiki and lessons learned from it were used by us to create the Interface package that now comes with Zope. The next phase of the project is to actually document the interfaces of Zope in Zope itself using the new interface framework. This will be the first step (and the hardest) toward a more component-oriented framework. These issues have been one of my tasks for the past few weeks, and in the next major version of Zope, you will probably see a good bit of internal interface documentation for high level and low level Zope interfaces. -Michel > So, where should I be looking to find out how RoleManager, Local Roles & Proxy > Role work from a Python product developers point of view (in Zope 2.3) and what > changes are in the pipeline? Security changes are usualy not driven through a pileline, think more like a gun to your head. ;) -Michel ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
It's an abortive effort to write up developer docs for Zope. I hope to revive it. There's an outline at http://www.zope.org//Wikis/Docs/ProductDevelopersGuide that I hoped to accomplish. It's not quite there yet. ;-) - Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff > Chris McDonough wrote: > > > > This might be helpful: > > > > http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/PDG/6-1-Security.stx > > Cool... I'll take a look. BTW, what's the PDG? I hadn't heard of it before... > > cheers, > > Chris > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > > ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
Chris McDonough wrote: > > This might be helpful: > > http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/PDG/6-1-Security.stx Cool... I'll take a look. BTW, what's the PDG? I hadn't heard of it before... cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
This might be helpful: http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/PDG/6-1-Security.stx - Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff > Hi, > > How active/relevant is the interfaces wiki at: > http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces > > I'm trying to figure out how RoleManagers, local roles, etc work and where the > work of Zope Security is actually done. > I've found ZopeSecurityPolicy.py and bits of stuff in Roles.py, and a few lines > in BaseRequest.py, but the picture is still kinda flakey :-S > > It looks like there was quite a lot of discussion on the Wiki about all this, > but I'm not sure how old it is and whether anything happened from it :-( > > Also, the new Wiki History thing doesn't seem very meaningful/helpful to me. > Apart from the occasional 'No Data Returned' and Zope error page, the list > returned doesn't seem to have any changes in it. What am I doign wrong? > > So, where should I be looking to find out how RoleManager, Local Roles & Proxy > Role work from a Python product developers point of view (in Zope 2.3) and what > changes are in the pipeline? > > cheers, > > Chris > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > > ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Interfaces Wiki & Security Stuff
Hi, How active/relevant is the interfaces wiki at: http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces I'm trying to figure out how RoleManagers, local roles, etc work and where the work of Zope Security is actually done. I've found ZopeSecurityPolicy.py and bits of stuff in Roles.py, and a few lines in BaseRequest.py, but the picture is still kinda flakey :-S It looks like there was quite a lot of discussion on the Wiki about all this, but I'm not sure how old it is and whether anything happened from it :-( Also, the new Wiki History thing doesn't seem very meaningful/helpful to me. Apart from the occasional 'No Data Returned' and Zope error page, the list returned doesn't seem to have any changes in it. What am I doign wrong? So, where should I be looking to find out how RoleManager, Local Roles & Proxy Role work from a Python product developers point of view (in Zope 2.3) and what changes are in the pipeline? cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
