Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Fred Drake 
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:59:26 +0200, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4 fails when running the unittests:

Then a collector item should be filed.  ;-)  I don't know anything
about ThreadedAsync myself.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Tim Peters 
[Andreas Jung]
 Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4 fails when running the unittests:

 EETraceback (most recent call last):
  File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, 
 line 216, in ?
main()
  File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, 
 line 212, in main
ThreadedAsync.LoopCallback.loop()
  File 
 /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, 
 line 156, in loop
poll_fun(timeout, map)
  File 
 /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, 
 line 108, in poll
r, w, e = select.select(r, w, e, timeout)
 select.error: (9, 'Bad file descriptor')

So it does.  On Windows the error msg is a bit different:

select.error: (10038, 'An operation was attempted on something that is
not a socket')

Looks like these come out of two related tests:

testNOK (ZEO.tests.testAuth.PlainTextAuth)
testNOK (ZEO.tests.testAuth.DigestAuth)

Curiously, the same tests pass on Zope 2.8 trunk under 2.4, and in
Zope3 under 2.4.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what those tests do.  Possibly relevant
is that 2.4's asyncore is less tolerant of leaving garbage in its
socket_map (like closed sockets).

One other thing to note:  a lot of deprecation warnings about
importing whrandom.  That module has been officially deprecated for
years (although the warning is new in 2.4) -- it's high time to stop
importing it.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Andreas Jung 

--On Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 11:27 Uhr -0400 Tim Peters 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curiously, the same tests pass on Zope 2.8 trunk under 2.4, and in
Zope3 under 2.4.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what those tests do.  Possibly relevant
is that 2.4's asyncore is less tolerant of leaving garbage in its
socket_map (like closed sockets).
Running the tests with 2.8 under Linux fails for me: Collector #1542.
Looks also related to asyncore.
Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Tim Peters 
[Andreas Jung]
 Running the tests with 2.8 under Linux fails for me:

Yes, I was replying to you, confirming that they also fail on Windows,
and identifying the specific tests that failed.

 Collector #1542.

Thanks -- I've added comments there.

 Looks also related to asyncore.

Since it blows up in the same asyncore-related place under Windows and
Linux, that's a pretty safe bet wink.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Tim Peters 
[Andreas Jung]
 Running the tests with 2.8 under Linux fails for me:

[Tim Peters] 
 Yes, I was replying to you, confirming that they also fail on Windows,
 and identifying the specific tests that failed.

Oops!  Sorry, I misread what you wrote.  Understood now.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Andreas Jung 
I have installed Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4b1 on my company site and it seems 
to run pretty fine.
I could not see the error below you described.

Andreas
--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 17:13 Uhr +0100 Matt Hamilton 
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Hi All,
   I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7
on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3.  It managed to pass
the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to
barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error
below.  Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4?
-Matt
zeo1# bin/runzope
/usr/local/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning: the whrandom
module is deprecated; please use the random module
   DeprecationWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49,
in ?
 run()
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 18,
in run
 opts = _setconfig()
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 41,
in _setconfig
 opts.realize(doc=Sorry, no option docs yet.)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line
264, in realize
 self.load_configfile()
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line
308, in load_configfile
 self.zconfig_options)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 43, in
loadConfig
 return _get_config_loader(schema, overrides).loadURL(url)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 71, in
loadURL
 return self.loadResource(r)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 183,
in loadResource
 self._parse_resource(sm, resource)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 234,
in _parse_resource
 parser.parse(matcher)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 63,
in parse
 section = self.end_section(section, line[2:-1])
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line
116, in end_section
 self.context.endSection(
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 201,
in endSection
 sectvalue = matcher.finish()
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 170,
in finish
 return self.constuct()
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 212,
in constuct
 v = v.convert(ci.datatype)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/info.py, line 65, in
convert
 return datatype(self.value)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py,
line 106, in importable_name
 package = __import__(n, g, g, component)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DBTab/ClassFactories.py, line
18, in ?
 import OFS.Uninstalled
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py, line 16,
in ?
 import  SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 27, in
?
 from CopySupport import CopySource
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 549,
in ?
 action ='manage_main',)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
line 474, in __call__
 try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md)
   File
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py,
line 202, in render_blocks
 cond=md[cond]
   File
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py,
line 140, in __getitem__
 v = self.dicts[key]
   File
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py,
line 100, in __getitem__
 raise KeyError, key
KeyError: 'v'
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-18 Thread Tino Wildenhain 
Hi,

Am Mo, den 18.10.2004 schrieb Andreas Jung um 20:30:
 I have installed Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4b1 on my company site and it seems 
 to run pretty fine.
 I could not see the error below you described.

I can second that. python-2.4.0b1 as Andreas said.

:-)

Regards
Tino

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[Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Matt Hamilton 
Hi All,
  I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 
on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3.  It managed to pass 
the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to 
barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error 
below.  Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4?

-Matt
zeo1# bin/runzope
/usr/local/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning: the 
whrandom module is deprecated; please use the random module
  DeprecationWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49, 
in ?
run()
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 18, 
in run
opts = _setconfig()
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 41, 
in _setconfig
opts.realize(doc=Sorry, no option docs yet.)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 
264, in realize
self.load_configfile()
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 
308, in load_configfile
self.zconfig_options)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 43, 
in loadConfig
return _get_config_loader(schema, overrides).loadURL(url)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 71, 
in loadURL
return self.loadResource(r)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 183, 
in loadResource
self._parse_resource(sm, resource)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 234, 
in _parse_resource
parser.parse(matcher)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 
63, in parse
section = self.end_section(section, line[2:-1])
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 
116, in end_section
self.context.endSection(
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 201, 
in endSection
sectvalue = matcher.finish()
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 170, 
in finish
return self.constuct()
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 212, 
in constuct
v = v.convert(ci.datatype)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/info.py, line 65, in 
convert
return datatype(self.value)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py, 
line 106, in importable_name
package = __import__(n, g, g, component)
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DBTab/ClassFactories.py, line 
18, in ?
import OFS.Uninstalled
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py, line 16, in ?
import  SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 27, in ?
from CopySupport import CopySource
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 549, 
in ?
action ='manage_main',)
  File 
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 
474, in __call__
try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md)
  File 
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
line 202, in render_blocks
cond=md[cond]
  File 
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
line 140, in __getitem__
v = self.dicts[key]
  File 
/usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
line 100, in __getitem__
raise KeyError, key
KeyError: 'v'

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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl 
On Oct 17, 2004, at 18:13, Matt Hamilton wrote:
Hi All,
  I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 
on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3.  It managed to 
pass the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing 
python2.3.4 to barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I 
get the error below.  Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work 
with python 2.4?
AFAIK no one has tested it or made any claims it does. More interesting 
than testing 2.7.0 would be a *recent* 2.7 version (the latest 2.7.3 
beta) and maybe 2.8 - unless you're looking for production-quality 
software.

jens
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Andreas Jung 

--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 17:13 Uhr +0100 Matt Hamilton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,
   I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7
on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3.  It managed to pass
the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to
barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error
below.  Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4?
-Matt
Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python 
2.4 in the short term.

-aj
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Andreas Jung 

--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 17:54 Uhr +0100 Matt Hamilton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andreas Jung wrote:
Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support
Python 2.4 in the short term.
Is this just a 'its not a good idea as it's not been tested'? or is it 'I
know it won't work, because X,Y and Z have changed, which means we need
to refactor Zope'?
The point is that it has not been testedjust a question of time and 
resources. We
can talk about this issue when Python 2.4 comes near to a final release but 
I don't
see the major benefits of Python 2.4 over 2.3.4 except some improvements in 
speed.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread chrism 
FWIW, the fact that you get the error at that point means that
cDocumentTemplate can't be imported (it's using pDocumentTemplate, which
nobody uses since it's a fallback).  This is probably the root of the
problem.  I suspect pDocumentTemplate would give the same error on any
platform.  I would start investigating why cDocumentTemplate fails to
import.

Yet another example of why conditionals at module scope are evil.

- C


On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 17:13 +0100, Matt Hamilton wrote:
 Hi All,
I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 
 on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3.  It managed to pass 
 the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to 
 barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error 
 below.  Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4?
 
 -Matt
 
 zeo1# bin/runzope
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning: the 
 whrandom module is deprecated; please use the random module
DeprecationWarning)
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49, 
 in ?
  run()
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 18, 
 in run
  opts = _setconfig()
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 41, 
 in _setconfig
  opts.realize(doc=Sorry, no option docs yet.)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 
 264, in realize
  self.load_configfile()
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 
 308, in load_configfile
  self.zconfig_options)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 43, 
 in loadConfig
  return _get_config_loader(schema, overrides).loadURL(url)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 71, 
 in loadURL
  return self.loadResource(r)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 183, 
 in loadResource
  self._parse_resource(sm, resource)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 234, 
 in _parse_resource
  parser.parse(matcher)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 
 63, in parse
  section = self.end_section(section, line[2:-1])
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 
 116, in end_section
  self.context.endSection(
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 201, 
 in endSection
  sectvalue = matcher.finish()
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 170, 
 in finish
  return self.constuct()
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 212, 
 in constuct
  v = v.convert(ci.datatype)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/info.py, line 65, in 
 convert
  return datatype(self.value)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py, 
 line 106, in importable_name
  package = __import__(n, g, g, component)
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DBTab/ClassFactories.py, line 
 18, in ?
  import OFS.Uninstalled
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py, line 16, in ?
  import  SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 27, in ?
  from CopySupport import CopySource
File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 549, 
 in ?
  action ='manage_main',)
File 
 /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 
 474, in __call__
  try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md)
File 
 /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
 line 202, in render_blocks
  cond=md[cond]
File 
 /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
 line 140, in __getitem__
  v = self.dicts[key]
File 
 /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, 
 line 100, in __getitem__
  raise KeyError, key
 KeyError: 'v'
 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Fred Drake 
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:34 +0200, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python
 2.4 in the short term.

It's in beta as of Friday evening; this would be a good time for
someone with time to start testing it with various Zope branches (2.7,
2.8/trunk, X3 3.0, X3 trunk).


  -Fred

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Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com
Zope Corporation
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Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7

2004-10-17 Thread Andreas Jung 

--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 15:14 Uhr -0400 Fred Drake 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:34 +0200, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support
Python 2.4 in the short term.
It's in beta as of Friday evening; this would be a good time for
someone with time to start testing it with various Zope branches (2.7,
2.8/trunk, X3 3.0, X3 trunk).
Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4 fails when running the unittests:
EETraceback (most recent call last):
 File 
/develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, 
line 216, in ?
   main()
 File 
/develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, 
line 212, in main
   ThreadedAsync.LoopCallback.loop()
 File 
/develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, 
line 156, in loop
   poll_fun(timeout, map)
 File 
/develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, 
line 108, in poll
   r, w, e = select.select(r, w, e, timeout)
select.error: (9, 'Bad file descriptor')

-aj
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