Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting
On 4/8/10 8:30 PM, Jan Smith wrote: I've published the irc meeting summaries on the Australian OzZope site - it also has an rss feed available. http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-development-meeting Could this be added to planetzope.org ? The planet's feed is also announced on #zope. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting
Hi Christian, From: Christian Theune c...@gocept.com To: zope-...@zope.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:16:38 +0200 Subject: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30) Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! Your summaries are extremely useful for people on the other side of the planet. The irc meetings are held at 3pm UTC - this is sleeping time for most of us downunder and means it's difficult to participate. I've published the irc meeting summaries on the Australian OzZope site - it also has an rss feed available. http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-development-meeting Jan Smith http://www.ozzope.org/ Also in short: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. (Hopefully without screwing up the time then.) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting
On 04/09/2010 05:30 AM, Jan Smith wrote: Hi Christian, From: Christian Theunec...@gocept.com To: zope-dev@zope.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:16:38 +0200 Subject: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30) Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! Your summaries are extremely useful for people on the other side of the planet. The irc meetings are held at 3pm UTC - this is sleeping time for most of us downunder and means it's difficult to participate. I've published the irc meeting summaries on the Australian OzZope site - it also has an rss feed available. http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-development-meeting Cool - thanks! -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
+1 for the summaries, I read them. Thanks for writing them! Vincent ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
* Christian Theune c...@gocept.com [2010-03-31 17:16]: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. I'm all in favor, it seems to me the meetings really help in moving things along. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! I feel the summaries are essential: without them, those not able to participate would very soon be out of the loop, and that's a very Bad Thing(tm) in my opinion. Wolfgang ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! Also in short: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. (Hopefully without screwing up the time then.) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
On 03/31/2010 05:16 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's this week's summary. That was a lie. Here's the summary. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development = Weekly Zope developer meeting = This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on Tuesday, 2010-03-30 on #z...@irc.freenode.org from 2pm to 2:45pm (UTC). Unfortunately the scheduled time was mixed up due me forgetting about the recent switch from CET to CEST in my place. The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-March/039860.html The IRC logs are located here: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-03-30.log.html#t2010-03-30T17:00:52 Bug tracking We discussed how to establish a better routine for dealing with the bugs we receive, e.g. fixing, triaging, ... Two supplementary approaches solidified: taking up on bug days again and running automatic checks to warn us if new bugs aren't dealt with for a longer period of time. Bug days Bug days seemed to have disappeared because nobody stepped up for organizing them. Christian Theune volunteered to organize a bug day in April. We'll see how that works out and figure out how to deal with them regularly later on. To allow people from multiple time zones to join in comfortably the bug day will span a longer period in time, probably starting around 9am CEST for Europeans allowing the Americas-based developers to join in later. Bug days also could be a good way to allow fresh developers to pick up somethign easy and get immediate assistance with the process and internals. For that the moderator of the bug day should be prepared to help others with fixing bugs and documenting process-related issues along the way. Checking for orphaned bugs -- Charlie Clarke volunteered to try writing a script that uses Launchpad's API to poll for bugs that have been sitting without a developer paying attention for too long and sending mail to zope-tests accordingly. Christian Theune will assist him. Proposed API changes vs. moving towards Python 3 = Our current Python compatibility target is 2.6 with 2to3 converting for compatibility with 3.1. We're still in a chicken-egg situation with Python 3 as both libraries and important parts of the toolchain (packaging, testing) aren't compatible with Python 3 yet. The ZTK as a large set of libraries is a part of the problem itself for many consumers. There was preliminary work by various people, especially Martin von Löwis that is bringing the packaging utilities to Python 3. From our perspective we need to first get the BTK (bicycle toolkit) and especially testing infrastructure to run on Python 2.6 and 3.1 before dealing with further pacakges. This seems to be a good task for a sprint. (The next upcoming sprints are: Plone Symposium East in late May, EuroPython in July, and DZUG in September) As Lennart Regebro brought this topic onto the agenda but wasn't present due to the DST confusion we'll raise it again next time to allow him to express his view on the topic. Meta: Reviewing the weekly meeting experiment = Tres, Charlie, and Stephan expressed they find the weekly meetings helpful and would like them to continue. To make them viable in the long run Christian Theune will try to find a second person that can take over organizing the meetings when he's not around. Charlie also noted that short time and agenda are helpful. In the future we'll have to figure out how to keep track of the open issues that we put on the backburner. Christian Theune will check whether Launchpad or another specialised web application might help with that. The meeting summaries have been found useful, although the participants of the IRC meetings suspect that those developers that could not join may find them even more useful. Feedback from the mailinglist (hey, are you reading this?) would be welcome. People asked for the agenda/notification mail to include an ICS file. Christian Theune can't do that with his tool chain and the Google calendar at http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/5f83vmc2vka8vbmvr4ck79m...@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics seems to have timezone issues, too. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! I read them and appreciate them. Thank you. Gary ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. +1 for summaries. At a minimum they make me feel like a bad person for not participating more. ;) -- Benji York ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! Also in short: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. (Hopefully without screwing up the time then.) Christian I find the summaries useful. They give good insight into what is happening for people like me who mostly use this list to get news about the progress of Zope. Thanks! Paul ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
On 31/03/10 17:17, Christian Theune wrote: The meeting summaries have been found useful, although the participants of the IRC meetings suspect that those developers that could not join may find them even more useful. Feedback from the mailinglist (hey, are you reading this?) would be welcome. I am reading them ! And pleased that the meetings happen. Thanks Christian -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
+1 for meetings, logs, and summaries! Good job! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
Hi, On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! I like to read those summaries, since they gave me an quick insight of what's going on in Zope world. Thanks! Jonathan ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's this week's summary. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those meetings, there's the open question about how useful you consider my summaries to be. Please tell! Also in short: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. (Hopefully without screwing up the time then.) Big +1 for meetings and another big +1 for summaries. Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
