Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sylvain Viollon wrote: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:14:07 -0500 > Tres Seaver wrote: > >Hello, > >> There was never any guarantee that Globals would be fully popluated >> before the start of product initialization: third-party code needs to >> defer checking that flag at "import" time (which is the point of the >> pattern Hanno outlines). >> >> An even better pattern would probably be to avoid the Globals "dumping >> ground" altogether and use the configuration object directly: >> >> from App.config import getConfiguration >> config = getConfiguration() >> if config.debug_mode: >> >> > >As matter of fact I tried that. And it always returned False >(that's why I posted that mail at first). I have to review my setup, >to see if there is something wrong, before I can continue to argue. > >I am using buildout and plone.recipe.zope2instance. That sounds as though you grabbed the configuration "early" (before startup has loaded it from the config file / command line options). You *can't* to this at module scope, because your module may be imported before the initialization has been done. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design"http://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkty4icACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ4a/QCeIXRVUIg4ib7m0yOj2lWP21XI pMYAn0V7pQ7x0hVGn1eRXLAd1NfHuoh7 =EUxK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:14:07 -0500 Tres Seaver wrote: Hello, > > There was never any guarantee that Globals would be fully popluated > before the start of product initialization: third-party code needs to > defer checking that flag at "import" time (which is the point of the > pattern Hanno outlines). > > An even better pattern would probably be to avoid the Globals "dumping > ground" altogether and use the configuration object directly: > > from App.config import getConfiguration > config = getConfiguration() > if config.debug_mode: > > As matter of fact I tried that. And it always returned False (that's why I posted that mail at first). I have to review my setup, to see if there is something wrong, before I can continue to argue. I am using buildout and plone.recipe.zope2instance. Regards, Sylvain, -- Sylvain Viollon -- Infrae t +31 10 243 7051 -- http://infrae.com Hoevestraat 10 3033GC Rotterdam -- The Netherlands ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Sylvain Viollon wrote: >> Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me that >> Globals.DevelopmentMode in Zope 2.12 is always False, even if you >> start Zope in fg, or set debug-mode to on in the configuration file. > > This works for me and DevelopmentMode is set correctly. > > Make sure you don't try to get the value too early (like at module > scope import time) but after the server has actually started up. So > don't do: "from Globals import DevelopmentMode" but "import Globals; > Globals.DevelopmentMode". I think the exact timing of the startup > process is somewhat different compared to prior versions. There was never any guarantee that Globals would be fully popluated before the start of product initialization: third-party code needs to defer checking that flag at "import" time (which is the point of the pattern Hanno outlines). An even better pattern would probably be to avoid the Globals "dumping ground" altogether and use the configuration object directly: from App.config import getConfiguration config = getConfiguration() if config.debug_mode: Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design"http://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkttFr8ACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5gqQCeN168JLfr328HmkcBxaI8pHlj qs4AoIZO+ojZJ5MSXjZuxV7ipyjtdZAD =qr6k -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Sylvain Viollon wrote: > Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me that > Globals.DevelopmentMode in Zope 2.12 is always False, even if you > start Zope in fg, or set debug-mode to on in the configuration file. This works for me and DevelopmentMode is set correctly. Make sure you don't try to get the value too early (like at module scope import time) but after the server has actually started up. So don't do: "from Globals import DevelopmentMode" but "import Globals; Globals.DevelopmentMode". I think the exact timing of the startup process is somewhat different compared to prior versions. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode
Hello, Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me that Globals.DevelopmentMode in Zope 2.12 is always False, even if you start Zope in fg, or set debug-mode to on in the configuration file. And I tried App.config.getConfiguration().debug_mode, it's the same. Did I miss something ? There is a new (working) way to know if Zope is running in debug mode or not ? Best regards, Sylvain Viollon -- Sylvain Viollon -- Infrae t +31 10 243 7051 -- http://infrae.com Hoevestraat 10 3033GC Rotterdam -- The Netherlands ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
