Re: [Zope-dev] zope (with cmf) instance being frequently restarted by signal SIGSEGV(11)

2004-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Richard Ettema wrote at 2004-5-28 11:28 +0100:
>I have a cmf site that has begun restarting frequently and at random 
>intervals for no apparent reason. This first occurred about 2 weeks ago 
>for about 2-3 days with the instance being restarted every 15 mins at 
>worst. This problem disappeared as quickly as it had appeared.
>
>2-3 days  ago this same problem reappeared but with the site sometimes 
>being restarted 10 times in a 15 minute period. I can find no sequence 
>of url calls or any common reason for this to be occurring. The only 
>thing I could find was the following entry appearing in the event log 
>matching the times I have witnessed the instance restarting via top.
>
>ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 25606 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11)

Let your operating system write core files (usually disabled,
read the manual page for "ulimit").
Analyse the resulting core file with "gdb".

-- 
Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope (with cmf) instance being frequently restarted by signal SIGSEGV(11)

2004-05-28 Thread Seb Bacon
Hi,
Just some quick suggestions:
 - First, can you reproduce the problem in a test environment?
 - In general, I would say one of the first steps you should take is try
   it out with the latest stable versions of Zope (2.7.0) and Python
   (2.3.4).  You shouldn't be surprised to find bugs running old
   versions of software and prerelease versions of your OS.
   For example, there are some BTree-related bugs in older Zope versions
   that could cause this, IIRC
 - I doubt the thread stack size is the issue, although others may be
   better equipped to say so
 - I guess it's possible that when you replaced the CPU you didn't
   upgrade the ventilation/cooling adequately?  Hot CPUs can cause all
   kinds of strange things.
seb
Richard Ettema wrote:
Hi,
I have a cmf site that has begun restarting frequently and at random 
intervals for no apparent reason.

ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 25606 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11)

-the cpu and memory being upgraded. This was returned to the original 
memory and cpu state to make sure this wasn't the cause. These have been 
swapped in/out with no change so it looks like it is just coincidence.

The only possible answer I have come up with while searching is about 
the thread stack size being to small. 

CMF: 1.4.2
Zope: (unreleased version, python 2.1.3, linux2)
Python:  2.1.3 (#1, Sep 7 2002, 15:29:56) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian 
prerelease)]
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[Zope-dev] zope (with cmf) instance being frequently restarted by signal SIGSEGV(11)

2004-05-28 Thread Richard Ettema
Hi,
I have a cmf site that has begun restarting frequently and at random 
intervals for no apparent reason. This first occurred about 2 weeks ago 
for about 2-3 days with the instance being restarted every 15 mins at 
worst. This problem disappeared as quickly as it had appeared.

2-3 days  ago this same problem reappeared but with the site sometimes 
being restarted 10 times in a 15 minute period. I can find no sequence 
of url calls or any common reason for this to be occurring. The only 
thing I could find was the following entry appearing in the event log 
matching the times I have witnessed the instance restarting via top.

ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 25606 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11)
The only changes that have occurred around the time of this first 
problem turning up was (other than normal site operation with 
members/items being add/deleted):
-the cpu and memory being upgraded. This was returned to the original 
memory and cpu state to make sure this wasn't the cause. These have been 
swapped in/out with no change so it looks like it is just coincidence.

There is no obvious signs of anything malicious going on, but this is 
always a possibility I guess? What to check for?

As this has basically brought the site to its knees with proxy errors 
displayed more often than not, has anyone got suggestions on what to 
look for. possibilities (however remote) as I am pretty desperate to get 
this fixed. If there is a simple explanation, what could cause it to 
start out of the blue?

The only possible answer I have come up with while searching is about 
the thread stack size being to small. And having to recompile python 
with this set to a larger figure. Is this related to the problem I am 
having, and is there an easy way to check if this is the case for the 
version I have running? If this is what I need to do, is there a good 
link for details on what needs to be done and how to do it?

CMF: 1.4.2
Zope: (unreleased version, python 2.1.3, linux2)
Python:  2.1.3 (#1, Sep 7 2002, 15:29:56) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian 
prerelease)]

Thank you for all your help on this as I am lost at what steps to take next.
Thanks,
Richard.

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