Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
On Friday 06 March 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote: > I'd definitely be in favor of trying this instead of undeprecating them. > zope.component has no business knowing about views and such. +1 Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
Dan Korostelev wrote: > 2009/3/6 Tres Seaver : [snip] >> I just undeprecated IView and the other 'bbb' interfaces for exactly >> this reason: if core packages still use them five years later, then the >> deprecation loses. > > I doubt that the IView and (especially) > IPresentation/IContextDependent are actually imported/used anywhere > directly. Especially when they were deprecated for years. So I'm +10 > on simply removing the inheritance and that BBB interfaces themselves, > as they only create confusion when someone tries to find out what > those interfaces constist of. I'd definitely be in favor of trying this instead of undeprecating them. zope.component has no business knowing about views and such. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
2009/3/6 Tres Seaver : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >>> since Dan Korostelev commented on my >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/338136 >>> saying I should take it to the mailing list, here goes: >>> >>> zope.publisher.interfaces.browser.IBrowserView inherits from >>> zope.component.interfaces.IView, which actually is >>> zope.component.bbb.interfaces.IView -- marked as deprecated since >>> 2004, but no pointer what the replacement should be. >>> >>> What's going on here? >> >> I actually remember running into this many many years ago and got so >> confused I gave up on it then. :) Hopefully someone else can tell you more! >> >> Something is definitely funky in here. >> >> I wonder what happens to our compattests if we simply remove this >> inheritance relationship. If nothing directly refers to IView it might >> mean everything will still work... > > I just undeprecated IView and the other 'bbb' interfaces for exactly > this reason: if core packages still use them five years later, then the > deprecation loses. I doubt that the IView and (especially) IPresentation/IContextDependent are actually imported/used anywhere directly. Especially when they were deprecated for years. So I'm +10 on simply removing the inheritance and that BBB interfaces themselves, as they only create confusion when someone tries to find out what those interfaces constist of. As for others, I bet IResource could be safely moved into zope.app.publisher and the IDefaultViewName - to zope.publisher to make company for IDefaultSkin. :) As for IViewFactory/IResourceFactory - they are not used by zope. For example, the BrowserView and BrowserPage classes don't provide those interfaces. So I propose to simply remove them. -- WBR, Dan Korostelev ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hey, > > Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >> since Dan Korostelev commented on my >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/338136 >> saying I should take it to the mailing list, here goes: >> >> zope.publisher.interfaces.browser.IBrowserView inherits from >> zope.component.interfaces.IView, which actually is >> zope.component.bbb.interfaces.IView -- marked as deprecated since >> 2004, but no pointer what the replacement should be. >> >> What's going on here? > > I actually remember running into this many many years ago and got so > confused I gave up on it then. :) Hopefully someone else can tell you more! > > Something is definitely funky in here. > > I wonder what happens to our compattests if we simply remove this > inheritance relationship. If nothing directly refers to IView it might > mean everything will still work... I just undeprecated IView and the other 'bbb' interfaces for exactly this reason: if core packages still use them five years later, then the deprecation loses. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design"http://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJsUkc+gerLs4ltQ4RAuNxAJwK+mWmEesGrBEBDRGAbVRmmjJ2kACeONam pIs6yQadsfbwT/n5XFcwC+4= =C8ps -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
Hey, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > since Dan Korostelev commented on my > https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/338136 > saying I should take it to the mailing list, here goes: > > zope.publisher.interfaces.browser.IBrowserView inherits from > zope.component.interfaces.IView, which actually is > zope.component.bbb.interfaces.IView -- marked as deprecated since > 2004, but no pointer what the replacement should be. > > What's going on here? I actually remember running into this many many years ago and got so confused I gave up on it then. :) Hopefully someone else can tell you more! Something is definitely funky in here. I wonder what happens to our compattests if we simply remove this inheritance relationship. If nothing directly refers to IView it might mean everything will still work... Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope.publisher uses deprecated IView
Hello, since Dan Korostelev commented on my https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/338136 saying I should take it to the mailing list, here goes: zope.publisher.interfaces.browser.IBrowserView inherits from zope.component.interfaces.IView, which actually is zope.component.bbb.interfaces.IView -- marked as deprecated since 2004, but no pointer what the replacement should be. What's going on here? Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Schnerring · w...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
